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*** NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3090 SERIES STOCK SITUATION - NO COMPETITOR DISCUSSION ***

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by EVH, 1 Oct 2020.

  1. denigor777

    Gangster

    Joined: 3 Mar 2015

    Posts: 370

    Location: Wokingham

    I don't think there is enough competition.

    There are only two competative GPU chip suppliers, Nvidia and AMD. That's not healthy competition.

    There are only a couple of Foundry companies capable of making the latest chips. Samsung and TSMC. That's also not enough for a healthy competative market.

    Chip design firms like ARM, Broadcom, Intel, Qualcomm etc. could compete, and hopefully Intel (also a Fabs firm) will be soon, as they are trying.
     
  2. ScottiB

    OcUK Systems

    Joined: 16 Nov 2007

    Posts: 2,962

    Location: Stoke-on-Trent

    There's a whole level of complexity which many people overlook though.
    It's becoming apparent to me that the constant pursuit of more & more raw 'horsepower' isn't the future of PC gaming. We've been butting up against power/temperature limits for quite a while and there's only limited success to be had chasing smaller and smaller manufacturing processes. The biggest gains could come in the form of architecture driven improvements, RT and DLSS style. Intel are putting a lot of effort into AI cores, as are Nvidia, and these cores could be used to massively boost gaming performance if only the game developers made use of them. The problem with this approach is the more competitive technologies there are, the more difficult it is for the devs to make use of them.
     
  3. James T

    Gangster

    Joined: 4 Dec 2020

    Posts: 206

    Very true, and the ideal is a bit of a chicken and egg; develop an open standard the Devs can use first, then your own HW or invent the technology, then write a standard they can program for? :confused:

    There is first mover advantage for whoever does that (e.g. DLSS) but widespread adoption means releasing the IP so others can expand the HW base supporting it, potentially losing £$£$£ revenuethe selfish entrepreneurial could keep for themselves.. :p
     
  4. Gazza000000

    Associate

    Joined: 8 Dec 2020

    Posts: 20

    **** me it got boaring here
     
  5. Gazza000000

    Associate

    Joined: 8 Dec 2020

    Posts: 20

    Where are the cards ????
     
  6. Gazza000000

    Associate

    Joined: 8 Dec 2020

    Posts: 20

    Why has it suddenly dried up altogether it’s a joke
     
  7. James T

    Gangster

    Joined: 4 Dec 2020

    Posts: 206

    My guess is it's dried up as production switches to the Ti and LHR versions next month, so all the current stock has vanished as they can't release the new ones yet (unless you live in UAE)...
     
  8. LordBeggar

    Gangster

    Joined: 10 Oct 2020

    Posts: 380

    I don't think Nvidia have announced 3090 TI or LHR version yet. May be Nvidia want to sell 3090's to miners so Nvidia can make more profit and their investors will be laughing
     
  9. Skiddley

    Mobster

    Joined: 1 Aug 2003

    Posts: 3,796

    Location: Cheshire

    Crypto is dipping hard - hopefully translate to improved availability in short term.
     
  10. Dupppex

    Gangster

    Joined: 22 Mar 2017

    Posts: 204

    Location: London

    Funny how Nvidia is now just about to release their Mining Limited GPU's. They know so many used GPU Miners no-longer want will available at an realistic price on eBay within the next few months.

    Nvidia makes 0% from resell so they don't want anybody buying used cards from eBay.

    So why not release a Mining limited GPU that normal gamers/content creators have a slightly better chance of purchasing to squeeze the last bit of extra profit from us.

    Nvidia dose not give a flying F about us.
     
  11. Richdog

    Caporegime

    Joined: 8 Sep 2005

    Posts: 26,619

    Location: Utopia

    Just to confirm... neither does AMD.

    You know things are bad when Intel are starting to seem like ok guys.
     
  12. Dupppex

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    Joined: 22 Mar 2017

    Posts: 204

    Location: London

    Last edited: 19 May 2021
  13. James T

    Gangster

    Joined: 4 Dec 2020

    Posts: 206

    Well, seems like the 3090 escapes the LHR nerf, so presumably the miners will switch focus to them now :rolleyes::(
     
  14. Gorbash12346

    Associate

    Joined: 21 Nov 2012

    Posts: 71

    Location: Glasgow

    So the 3090's that went up today at £2900... what the hell is that price about? I get that scalpers are asking silly money for them but to ask that amount at retail? Surely that's just fanning the flames? I get that costs have increased but is it really that bad?
     
  15. Richdog

    Caporegime

    Joined: 8 Sep 2005

    Posts: 26,619

    Location: Utopia

    Its shameless and scandalous profiteering from stores with no ethics.
     
  16. random_matt

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 30 Jul 2012

    Posts: 1,645

    Seems like 6900 XT toxic is a bargain comparatively. Others are selling MSI ones for £2000. Both LOL worthy.

    Damn, my HOF (sent back to another retailer) was £2399.
     
  17. Isa Sadat

    Associate

    Joined: 4 May 2021

    Posts: 2

    Ladies, Gents, Superheroes and Supervillains,

    My RTX TUF 3090 has been upgraded to the OC version FOC! It's finally being shipped! (Was 6th, they brought in 7, pre-ordered since November).

    Thank you Gibbo, ScottiB and everyone from OCUK for doing your best in these unprecedent times, you have allowed a FilmMaker/Game Dev (CGi/3D artist) to be born, good bye 750 Ti!
    Hello creative world!

    Stay strong everyone, may all your items be shipped soon.

    And now, I shall camp outside my house.
     
  18. James T

    Gangster

    Joined: 4 Dec 2020

    Posts: 206

    OK, but wouldn't you be more comfortable on a chair just inside the front door? If you wedge your letterbox open you can keep an eye out for deliveries that way.
    Don't forget to rig a tripwire tied to your leg in case you fall asleep and a shitbucket will mean you don't need to move from the spot. Pizza can be delivered via the letterbox too! :cry:

    Finally, enjoy the Powaaaaaaa! :cool:
     
  19. Chookey

    Associate

    Joined: 9 May 2021

    Posts: 11

    Location: Nuneaton

    I too received my good news email today.
    Thanks to all at OCUK and especially to me for my patience:cry:
     
  20. martind

    Gangster

    Joined: 13 Oct 2020

    Posts: 469

    Location: Plymouth

    "YOU LUCKY BLEEDERS" to quote, happy for you all, have fun and let the stress roll away.