NVIDIA to Unveil GeForce GTX TITAN P at Gamescom

Seanspeed · 5 Jul 2016 at 15:39

MooMoo444 said:
lol, pull the other one

The people who buy titans don't count pennies. £800, £1400, its no difference to this market.

This just isn't true. I feel like some people get this idea that enthusiast PC equipment is the realm of the super rich or something, when it's not. I'm sure they make up a percentage of it, but there's also plenty of people who are simply comfortable with decent paying jobs and consider PC gaming/hardware their hobby and enjoy spending their hard earned cash on nice equipment. And there's also enthusiasts who are less comfortable but still like to save up for nice stuff.

I mean, PC gaming is an expensive hobby if you like the nice stuff, but it's by no means a rich man-only market at the higher end. Plenty of other hobbies can get just as expensive, if not moreso, that dont require being rich. And so a company cant just get away with charging whatever they want. There will always be limits to what people can justify and where you lose more revenue from cutting out too many people than you gain with the price hike.

BluD · 5 Jul 2016 at 15:40

Looking at the picture on the first page they havent left much space around the chip, when they put their standard half gallon of TIM in there, where is it all gonna overflow to?

Kaapstad said:
Hang about that makes me a double mug as I use quadfired 290Xs !!!

I think you get a pass if you quadfire everything!

RanxZy · 5 Jul 2016 at 15:40

Simon Belmont said:
If the 1080 price is anything to go by (1080's going now for £850 nearly £900 some models) the Titan p or 1080 Ti will be super duper stupid money. I'll say it right now 1080 Ti £1200 for the cheapest could be more?

I will have a little laugh inside when the Ti is released at £600+ and the 1080 loses a couple hundred in value like the last two generations.

Call me crazy but that must make history crazy too. 680 High end.... 780 comes out in it's price bracket. 980 high end.... 980Ti for £500+ on day one say no more. 1080 high end.... Guess what, it's happened before it can happen again, 1080Ti to take it's place at less than £700 for the clown model lol.

Kaapstad · 5 Jul 2016 at 15:41

Gerard said:
Dual core cards like that generally are more expensive. It was also the card that introduced their high end "thermal".

They introduced a few thing that are still in use today like the styling.

You would never guess from all the moaning about prices that the very old cards in the pic are a lot more expensive than the brand new ones lol.

jupiter_man · 5 Jul 2016 at 15:42

Gregster said:
Fair play and Kudos for that

Anyone buying a Titan/X/P/Z should really be doing their homework if spending that much on a GPU and as evidence since the first Titan, there is always something close to performance soon after. With the original Titan came the 780, half the memory and a few cores down but massively cheaper and the same with the Titan X, the 980Ti had hlaf the memory and a little less cores but again massively cheaper. I expect the same thing this time as well with the Titan P.

Its logical though, Titan is for the niche market - super crazy fan like you, customer aiming for King of Card while price is not that much important, willing to pay premium for that absolute performance.

beany_bot · 5 Jul 2016 at 15:45

Seanspeed said:
This just isn't true. I feel like some people get this idea that enthusiast PC equipment is the realm of the super rich or something, when it's not. I'm sure they make up a percentage of it, but there's also plenty of people who are simply comfortable with decent paying jobs and consider PC gaming/hardware their hobby and enjoy spending their hard earned cash on nice equipment. And there's also enthusiasts who are less comfortable but still like to save up for nice stuff.

I mean, PC gaming is an expensive hobby if you like the nice stuff, but it's by no means a rich man-only market at the higher end. Plenty of other hobbies can get just as expensive, if not moreso, that dont require being rich. And so a company cant just get away with charging whatever they want. There will always be limits to what people can justify and where you lose more revenue from cutting out too many people than you gain with the price hike.

Agreed. A bag of golf bats can cost you 10x what a high end gaming rig would.

BluD · 5 Jul 2016 at 15:45

The only dualcore i ever bought was a voodoo 5, its strange we dont see many manufacturers copying that styling

if ya can call it styling.

tyler_jrb · 5 Jul 2016 at 15:47

RanxZy said:
I will have a little laugh inside when the Ti is released at £600+ and the 1080 loses a couple hundred in value like the last two generations.

Call me crazy but that must make history crazy too. 680 High end.... 780 comes out in it's price bracket. 980 high end.... 980Ti for £500+ on day one say no more. 1080 high end.... Guess what, it's happened before it can happen again, 1080Ti to take it's place at less than £700 for the clown model lol.

It's nvidia! No chance.

Expect a FE 1080Ti at the measly price of £999

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Plus 980Ti was £600+ on launch. 980's were about £400 even after the 980Ti was released.

VincentHanna · 5 Jul 2016 at 15:48

beany_bot said:
Agreed. A bag of golf bats can cost you 10x what a high end gaming rig would.

Not anymore...You can get very nice clubs for £500-£1000

Wucked · 5 Jul 2016 at 15:50

Gregster said:
How would you like it if I said "Those who buy anything like a 390X is poor"? That would be insulting and wrong, so maybe think before you type and will save you getting people's backs up. Think what you like by all means but refrain from typing stupid things on an enthusiasts forum please.

Anyone who purchases a Titan for gaming is wealthy, not only on a global scale, but among PC gamers. Who are already in the wealthy group in terms of disposable income. That's not insulting. Run to your safe space if you need to, but Titan's are ridiculous. Nice cards, but way to expensive to make any kind of real sense. Free speech is wonderful, is it not?

Gerard · 5 Jul 2016 at 15:54

Kaapstad said:
They introduced a few thing that are still in use today like the styling.

http://i.imgur.com/24l0LNZ.jpg

You would never guess from all the moaning about prices that the very old cards in the pic are a lot more expensive than the brand new ones lol.[/QUOTE]

That's what i said, the cooler on the 690 started the current trend :)

mahius · 5 Jul 2016 at 15:55

I can see this being well over £1.2k in price, going by past releases.

This does have me excited for a 1080ti, the sort of card I'd actually be looking to upgrade to. However I won't even consider anything over £650. Which is looking very unlikely as a 1080ti price... considering the increased cost of GPUs this gen across the board (*glares at AMD's false promises*).

Heck, at this rate... I might as well wait till next gen in the slight hope that good GPUs might get more affordable? Or even just a 1170 for 1080ti performance at £500 or something...

It's not easy being a hardware enthusiast these days...

RanxZy · 5 Jul 2016 at 15:57

I feel the new 1080 owners are putting their fingers in their ears thinking yeah 1080Ti has to be £1200. Deep down they don't like the idea of their high end card being knocked off it's peg for not much more, especially because it'll knock a chunk of value off the 1080.

NVIDIA gets it, if you can get Titan X and 980Ti owners tempted enough to ditch their top end Maxwell card for a 1080 with 30% odd increase, then they can definitely tempt 1080 owners with a Ti with a 50% increase in performance. This means NVIDIA is able to get people to double dip on the same architecture. £620 + £700 is almost what some 1080 owners believe a 1080Ti will cost, so not bad.

Seanspeed · 5 Jul 2016 at 16:00

beany_bot said:
Agreed. A bag of golf bats can cost you 10x what a high end gaming rig would.

Green fees over the course of a year add up a ton, too.

Though $10,000 set of clubs seems quite insane even by club standards....that truly is mostly wealthy-man territory.

tyler_jrb · 5 Jul 2016 at 16:06

RanxZy said:
I feel the new 1080 owners are putting their fingers in their ears thinking yeah 1080Ti has to be £1200. Deep down they don't like the idea of their high end card being knocked off it's peg for not much more, especially because it'll knock a chunk of value off the 1080.

NVIDIA gets it, if you can get Titan X and 980Ti owners tempted enough to ditch their top end Maxwell card for a 1080 with 30% odd increase, then they can definitely tempt 1080 owners with a Ti with a 50% increase in performance. This means NVIDIA is able to get people to double dip on the same architecture. £620 + £700 is almost what some 1080 owners believe a 1080Ti will cost, so not bad.

Maybe but it won't be cheap. Current 1080 pricing is £700+ for custom models and 3/4 of those are not even in stock yet or a small selection of cards.

No doubt about it a hmb2 1080Ti is going to be pricey. £8-900+ at least with the usual nvidia gimmick of 50% faster than 1080 and 50% cheaper than Titan P.

One thing it won't be is £600.

Kaapstad · 5 Jul 2016 at 16:06

http://videocardz.com/61844/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-based-on-pascal-to-launch-in-august

X-Mikuru_Beam-X · 5 Jul 2016 at 16:07

I am very interested in the new Pascal Titan to drive my PG279Q at as high a refresh rate as possible..

Provided the Titan "P" comes out at least month or two before the 1080Ti I am hoping to get a good resale price on my 1080 (which I love)

I figure this would be a better strategy than to sell my 1080 when the Ti model shows up?

regulus · 5 Jul 2016 at 16:13

beany_bot said:
It's nothing to do with Price in of itself. And you know fine well that's not the case. I'm saying (and have made very clear) That I believe its a silly buy because the Ti is the same performance for much cheaper. You know fine well that's what I mean.

Sure if the Titan was the only card in it's performance category, then charge/pay what you want. As I keep being reminded It's your money, do what you want with it.

My point is to buy a Titan, when you know a card of the same performance, from the same company is just round the corner is daft. Nothing to do with the price of the Titan, more the fact you are being ripped off because they will soon launch the Ti that will make your Titan look like....well....a stupid purchase.

Talk about stupid purchases. The Titan X is still selling for nearly 2k here in NZ. Saw a 2nd hand one yesterday on a popular 2nd hand site here in NZ for $700. If I didn't already had a 1080 I'd be looking at that.

You should be thanking people that buy these things and flog them 6 months later for a quarter of the price!

Griffildur · 5 Jul 2016 at 16:14

Seanspeed said:
This just isn't true. I feel like some people get this idea that enthusiast PC equipment is the realm of the super rich or something, when it's not. I'm sure they make up a percentage of it, but there's also plenty of people who are simply comfortable with decent paying jobs and consider PC gaming/hardware their hobby and enjoy spending their hard earned cash on nice equipment. And there's also enthusiasts who are less comfortable but still like to save up for nice stuff.

I mean, PC gaming is an expensive hobby if you like the nice stuff, but it's by no means a rich man-only market at the higher end. Plenty of other hobbies can get just as expensive, if not moreso, that dont require being rich. And so a company cant just get away with charging whatever they want. There will always be limits to what people can justify and where you lose more revenue from cutting out too many people than you gain with the price hike.

Totally agree with you on that. You can buy hardware quite easily these days. OC has a nice buy now, pay in 6 months thing. Spreading the cost makes it a lot more affordable than paying a big chunk in one go.

JanM · 5 Jul 2016 at 16:19

I can't believe Nvidia are going to unveil GP102 this soon.
If it is unveiled at gamescom I wonder if we might see it released well before christmas???