OcUK Photo Comp - Season Five : Round Four - "Yellow" DISCUSSION

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OcUK Photo Comp - Season Five : Round Four - "Yellow" DISCUSSION

Theme: Yellow

Chosen by: ATHRoss & danza


Closing date: Midnight Sunday 2nd July 2006


Please post all discussion for the current competition in this thread and keep entries in the ENTRIES thread.
DO NOT post any entries in this thread!

Judges: RichDay, xolotl, Matt.

This competition is open to everyone.


RULES
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Rules must be followed. Failure to follow one or more rules will result in disqualification for the current round.

* One image per entrant (may be a montage consisting of two or more photos).
* If a montage is entered, all photos in the image will be judged on their relevance to each other as well as the theme.
* Photos must be posted in or linked to this thread for consideration.
* Photos must be of a reasonable size.
* Photos may have an optional border. If used, this must be a single colour and a reasonable size.
* Photos must have been taken on or after Wednesday, May 3rd, 2006. Invalid EXIF dates must be declared.
* Photos that have been commented on previously by any of the judges, will not be considered.
* Photos must be available for viewing in this thread until the competition winner has been announced.

* Photographers must post their make and model unless it is provided in the EXIF Information.
* Photographers retain full copyright to their entries, so you must contact them before using their entries.

* The winner of each round will choose the theme for the next round.

* The Judges may not discuss or submit their interpretation of the theme until the competition winner has been announced.
* The Judges will not reveal individual scores, however some judges may provide a critique after the competition has ended.
* The Judges may or may not notify disqualified photographers before the deadline.
* The Judges decisions are final.

* Minimum Bribe Level: Canon EOS-1Ds Mk II


RECOMMENDATIONS
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Recommendations are optional.

A '+' sign next to the recommendation means you will gain marks.
A '-' sign next to the recommendation means you will lose marks.
A '/' sign next to the recommentation means your score will not be affected.

Each of the 3 judges will give you a score out of 30 as follows:-


* Technical ( 1 - 10 )

+ Use of Photoshop or Image Editing programs to enhance your photo.
+ Correct use of Lighting/Saturation/Contrast/Exposure.
+ Correct use of DOF (Depth of Field).
+ Appreciation for Rule of Thirds, Golden Mean and other photographic rules.

- Overuse or misuse of Photoshop or other Image Editing programs
- Bad Lighting/Saturation/Contrast/Exposure.
- Blurred photos due to incorrect DOF (Depth of Field) or camera shake.
- Unintentionally slanted photos.

/ EXIF Info is recommended for digital photographers.
/ Camera Settings are recommended for film photographers.


* Theme Relevance ( 1 - 10 )

+ Good interpretation of the theme
+ Originality

/ Your photograph should represent the theme without further commentary.


* Impact ( 1 - 10 )

+ WOW Factor!
+ Overall ambience of the photo.

All past competition Entry, Discussion & Results threads can be found in the PV Archive. Select "From the - beginning" in the Display Options at the bottom of the page to view all Competition threads.
 
Ok, before this gets out of hand, the judging team have collectively had words and we've come to the conclusion that photographers should only enter images they have taken themselves.

This has always been implied by the following rules:

* Photographers must post their make and model unless it is provided in the EXIF Information.
* Photographers retain full copyright to their entries, so you must contact them before using their entries.

It's never been explicitly mentioned to try and keep the competition as simple as possible. We do realise there is no way of enforcing this rule - this competition is entirely based on trust. This works because you're all honest people - SteveOBHave didn't have to state he hadn't taken the picture.

Therefore:

SteveOBHave - Your picture can stand but only if you are posting on behalf of your girlfriend. If this is the case we'll need her name so we can allocate points accordingly.

Everyone else - the rules will be updated for next round to explicitly state that you must have been the photographer for the image you enter.
 
SteveOBHave said:
If the judges decide that the image must be withdrawn, then I will, but I think the rest of you need to grow up and stop playing with the semantics of the situation. The fact is that I entered an image and accredited it to my girlfriend of 5 years in the spirit of joining in the fun. I thought the idea was to appreciate the photography, not engage in political discussion.

I apologise to everyone else, it was not my intention to cause any ripples :(

Nope, you don't have to withdraw the image - we're more than happy if you're posting on behalf of your girlfriend.

I apologise for the situation that has arisen - the judges have collectively made our decision as to this image and the rules will be clarified for the next round.

Now, can we all move on and be friends again? :)
 
Colin_da_Killer said:
I'm not meaning to udnermine the judges decision, I just wish it wasn't made so fast without any thought.

So three of us taking 20 minutes out from when we're supposed to be working to discuss this and come to a mutual agreement is making a decision too fast and without thought is it?

Without wishing to be rude you are posting about something you know nothing about.
 
Colin_da_Killer said:
What makes you more qualified as a judge for this decision than me? Other than the title for THIS forum? Seriously. Without wishing to be rude, but you are as experienced as a judge as I am and this is a commmunity photography comp for this forum so I think we should all get a say in the rules. Judges are there to make the decision for who wins or not and the points etc, not to make the forum rules for the competition, that I feel should be up for debate.

I probably won't be entering the competition anymore due to the obvious fact that I won't be getting high marks from now on but it doesn't bother me all that much. There are no prizes for this competition, that SHOULD mean that this is for FUN, which is is fastly not becoming any more.

Lets face facts here, the judges have no credentials to be so, therefore the competition could never be judged in a fair or accurate way since the beginning, thats another reason for this to be for FUN, the rules are there, but if something arises like this event, I think it should be discussed in the forum by all members who participate in the comp, not just the judges. The judges can easily have favourites, nto saying this would happen but I have seen entries where I would rate them far above some others et they get low graded marks for it. We do have some pro photographers in here so the level playing fields were not really there to begin with so these facicst rules are not helping anyway.

The problem with having an open forum for discussion of rules is that it takes forever to decide often with no clear consensus reached. If there were to be a major rewrite of the rules then yes I feel it would be fair to involve everyone but as we're adding a rule that has been implied from the start I can't see how it would be of benefit.

Judges are asked to remain impartial. I do not take into account personal feeling about an entrant when I mark his or her entry. I know and have personally met a few of the people from this forum but I do not mark them all in the top five every time, each picture is judged on it's own merits.

With regards to winning entries, sometime I am surprised at how photos do. My personal favourites from last round didn't even make the top five.
 
Broadbandplacey said:
a quick thanxs to Fstop11 for commenting that my photo may be valid as i assumed automatically it would be disqualified from the compo

i assumed it would be disqualified under the excessive use of photoshop rule. if a judge could say either way it would be appreciated before i submit it.

Whilst I cannot comment on the suitability of an entry I would like to point you at the following section of the rules:

A '-' sign next to the recommendation means you will lose marks.
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- Overuse or misuse of Photoshop or other Image Editing programs

You will not be disqualified for over-using photoshop but you may lose points.

HTH :)
 
Sorry guys, work and family got in the way - I'm home now and I'm downloading the entries now... I will distribute them tonight and get started judging I promise :)
 
Squarehed said:
When i see photographs like this, i really want to become as talented as you guys are. I think i have the eye for a scene - but the entire package including a camera - the settings and photoshop are what i need to aim for.

If you've got the camera skills you won't need photoshop...


Just a thought ;)

FWIW: photoshop and I are inseperable!
 
Not so bad - I'm about 75% of the way through. There's a lot of entries this month and the theme is a tricky one to judge! :)

Not sure how the other guys are getting on - I've not been in touch for a while.
 
Results recieved.

I gotta go pick my GF up from the station in five mins but I'll just let you know that there's a bit of a shake up in the top ten (for this round) - there's a few people there that have really raised their game this round.

We also have the first bronze award of the season for 10 points in one category from one of the judges.

Results will be posted later :)
 
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