OcUK Photo Comp - Season Six : Round Two - "Still Life" RESULTS
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yak.h'cir said:Regards the new theme, should I just post it in here on should I email judge/mod so its more of a supprise???
I was considering 'glamour self portrait' but decided to go for something a little more conventional
Send me an email.
The only problems I can see with introducing a new weighted mark scheme now is that:
A. It would mean those who did well in the first two rounds have a massive head start as the maximum marks are now 60 instead of 90.
B. Its really confusing.
C. I could do with someone making up to excel spread sheets with the formulas already in.
D. I think the current system is working well. The theme complaint occasionally get raised but never to this extent.
What I am going to propose probably wont satiate you lot but I'll say it anyway. I think if the judges take care to look up classical interpretations of a theme when marking and use the entire mark band then I don't anticipate any more problems.
xolotl said:
I think thats probably all thats needed. Its not often we have a theme where the normal interpretation is so strongly held in peoples heads. Pretty much all the other themes give rise to much broader subject matters so I can't see this problem coming up like this again. It can't hurt for the judges to research the classical routes of any theme selected, but then I think they should also feel free to award points to pictures that they feel may follow an alternative view of the theme.
Easily done! I'll have a stab if you email me some exact details to what it needs to include, use the addy from my trust.xolotl said:
As for the first 2 rounds why not have them re-calculated? i assume you still have the individual marks from each judge.
Nice to see that a few people agree with me. But it appears to me that a "Won't happen again" isn't good enough for a few people.
I think that this problem has occurred for a few reasons.
Firstly my judging on this round was a little rushed. As much as I would like to spend 5 minutes procrastinating about each photo when you have 186 scores to give out this isn't possible. You need to appreciate that we are human and we don't always make the right decision on each photo.
Usually in each round there are 2-3 stand out photos. Personally I don't think the standard of entries this round was particularly brilliant. Because they're wernt any other photos that had brilliance in all three categories this led to the situation we have now. The average statistics I posted earlier prove this and Morgan also agree about this.
I think as well as rushing the judging I don't think I personally took time to look up some of the classical definitions of the theme. This happened because when you get such an obvious* theme such as Still Life you tend to just rely on your own knowledge of the definition. Which in this case led to certain photos not getting the theme scores they really deserved.
While I understand that quite a few of you have strong feelings on the current system I do not see the need for knee jerk changes to the system. I think a set of circumstances that very rarely occur led to some odd results this round. I am not in favour of changing the system because of this. If the system continues to produce anomalous then maybe it is time for a change. But at this moment I am firmly in favour of keeping what we have at the moment.
*If you like obvious themes you'll love round four.
I think that this problem has occurred for a few reasons.
Firstly my judging on this round was a little rushed. As much as I would like to spend 5 minutes procrastinating about each photo when you have 186 scores to give out this isn't possible. You need to appreciate that we are human and we don't always make the right decision on each photo.
Usually in each round there are 2-3 stand out photos. Personally I don't think the standard of entries this round was particularly brilliant. Because they're wernt any other photos that had brilliance in all three categories this led to the situation we have now. The average statistics I posted earlier prove this and Morgan also agree about this.
I think as well as rushing the judging I don't think I personally took time to look up some of the classical definitions of the theme. This happened because when you get such an obvious* theme such as Still Life you tend to just rely on your own knowledge of the definition. Which in this case led to certain photos not getting the theme scores they really deserved.
While I understand that quite a few of you have strong feelings on the current system I do not see the need for knee jerk changes to the system. I think a set of circumstances that very rarely occur led to some odd results this round. I am not in favour of changing the system because of this. If the system continues to produce anomalous then maybe it is time for a change. But at this moment I am firmly in favour of keeping what we have at the moment.
*If you like obvious themes you'll love round four.
I agree with Xolotl's suggestion but perhaps it would help if the judges could do some research on the topic so they can judge correctly. Also when it comes to points they can with an accurate idea of what fits the theme and what doesn't, give points accordingly- 10 for a yes and 0 or a no?