Offered a Mazda 6 MPS, should I take it?

For 7k I would definitely be getting, they are pretty quick (250bhp?) 4wd for all your winter worries :P and seems like it is at a good price looking at others. Not too frugal with petrol though from what I remember reading.
 
My dads owned one for over 3 years now, ive driven it a fair bit and have been very very impressed by it. If they'd have brough the mk2 over here i'd be considering one, a lot of car for your money.

Mid 20s is achievable MPG wise but thats about it.
 
MikeHiow said:
You should not underestimate the little GTIs.

Is it really that hard for you to grasp that a car that is only around 20bhp/ton off the ST220, but has significantly shorter gearing, could be faster? Not to mention the amount of tuned 106GTIs around - I think someone was telling me the other day that a simple filter, exhaust and remap would see around 140bhp, which would see it equal the ST220 in power to weight ratio while retaining the favourable gear ratios.

I guess my point was that the ST220 is hardly a benchmark for considering a car fast.
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I stand by my original reply.
 
If I had to pick between a gti and a ST220 for a blast, id take the 106 :)

While I dont think you would see much between them, I'd put my money on the 106 pipping the ST... but only just, not maybe by Mikes initial word of smoke.

:)

Whats a forum without debate :p
 
I was stuck between a Mazda 6 MPS and my ST220, in the end i choose the ST because you got a nicer example for the money i had. MPS were 2k more for a lower milage ones, also the early 06 (before March 06) were harder to find so most were on the £400+ a year tax band.

Also, The 6 MPS is 4wd not front as states above!

So to the opp, if its a early 06 plate and in nice condition for 7k i would definatly consider it!
 
I hate asking, but I must.

What sort of running costs does the st hit you with?

I like the MPS, but it seems to be a bit greedy
 
ST is the cheapest car i have insured (£390) in the a very long time, fuel wise obviously its not amazing being a 3.0 V6, but saying that its not as bad as i imagined either. Up and down duel carrigeways i see 30-32mpg then normal day to day town driving 24-28

MPS is going to be worse on both insurance and fuel i would have thought, cant really say on parts / serving though as havnt owned the st very long
 
[TW]Fox;19293549 said:
As frustrating as it is to see him run away when he's made to look daft I guess its preferable to him arguing for the next 11 pages.
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How was I made to look daft? I provided a perfectly valid argument to support what I saw, most of which you intentionally ignored.
 
Take it, nice sleeper cars tbh. My cousin had one, but the 2.3 does drink.
 
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Very compliant/well damped suspension on them, but the steering wasn't it's best feature. Punchy engine from what I could tell in a 10 minute drive of one.

Oh and the dual exit exhausts are actually 2 tiny exhaust pipes which are not-so-hidden once you get up close, which annoyed me more than it should have.
 
Thanks for the comments, chaps. At least I know to watch out for chavved up 106s now, especially if an integral part of the engine head is ever kaput...

Had 20 minutes behind the wheel this afternoon and thoroughly enjoyed it. Fairly obvious turbo lag, especially considering the only quick motors I've driven are naturally aspirated. Once the power comes online it transforms into a monster - I've still got a big ****-eating grin on my face 4 hours later.

Ride felt just about right, firm enough to make cornering fun and give that reassuring rumble at low speeds but nowhere near ache-inducing Elise territory.

Downers:

I share Witor's irritation of the embarrassing pea shooters sticking out the back.

Consumption is really quite poor, this'll be the deciding factor for me: I can totally understand it drinking like no tomorrow when it's ragged everywhere, but for 30mpg to be unachievable for all but long motorway cruises is worrying. With fuel going up every month I can see this driving down the resale value, even if I keep it in immaculate condition.

Clutch has two modes: in and out. I never felt like I was going to stall it, but I imagine traffic jams are a nightmare with so little power control. Would love some insight into this by owners: my journey in to work has light traffic, but home again has a 50/50 chance of gridlock.


Despite the tax (£450 for this one) and fuel consumption, it's a lot of car for not a lot of money. Pretty much as Q as it gets, which is exactly what I love.
 
MikeHiow said:
How was I made to look daft? I provided a perfectly valid argument to support what I saw, most of which you intentionally ignored.
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Suggesting the ST220 was a poor benchmark to use against a Mazda6 MPS when in reality it was probably its main competitor.
 
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