*****OFFICIAL OcUK/JW IP35 Pro THREAD*****
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Sorry - but I missed this before. The SATA II/AHCI issue is now fixed, yes. This board is significantly better than an Abit IP35-E for slightly less money. The hardware has always been rock solid and now the firmware/BIOS upgrades really do make it a superb overclocker. Even if you're not overclocking it is a very fast board, and all the voltages are very stable. The only features it doesn't have are Firewire and RAID, so if you need those you'll need to look at an Abit IP35 or one of the Gigabyte P35 boards.
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Or get a dedicated RAID card and possibly a small boost in performance/ less CPU utilisation. I'd personally get this motherboard and a PCIe 1x RAID card. Might aswell use them slots, not much else does 
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does it also happen on your external sound card as you said before?
this sounds strange.
this is the first time we got such report.
anyway, will take a look at this.
does it also happen on your external sound card as you said before?
this sounds strange.
this is the first time we got such report.
anyway, will take a look at this.
Choppy sound was a huge issue with Realtek AC97 hardware with Vista Beta. It was largely resolved by January 2007. Vista takes total control of sound output and it has taken the sound card developers a long time to realise that they have to do what Microsoft wants or or it just won't work. I'm using the HD audio on mine and it's fine with the current drivers on Vista 64. Are you on 64 or 32-bit Vista?
I've had a bit of a play about this afternoon and I'm quite pleased with the results;
I'm not claiming it's Prime stable (it's not) but it is good enough for a suicide shot. By knocking back the FSB to 495 I can run SuperPi in 10.516 which is good enough to be 3rd in the official OcUK overall table and I'm currently priming at 4.25Ghz which does appear to be utterly stable.
There is NO indicated Vdroop at 1.52V set in BIOS (shows at 1.52V in CPUz and PC Wizard 2008 and the Northbridge and Southbridge coolers are only just a little bit warm with no cooling on them at all.
This motherboard is absolutely superb at overclocking dual-cores.
Things I have discovered today;
On the BIOS boot screen it always says 667MHz - even when it's set to 800MHz in the BIOS.
1.58V is not enough to get 4.5GHz stable with my current E8400 CPU.
+0.35V isn't enough to keep my G.Skill PC8500 RAM stable at 1000MHz under full load.
I'm not claiming it's Prime stable (it's not) but it is good enough for a suicide shot. By knocking back the FSB to 495 I can run SuperPi in 10.516 which is good enough to be 3rd in the official OcUK overall table and I'm currently priming at 4.25Ghz which does appear to be utterly stable.
There is NO indicated Vdroop at 1.52V set in BIOS (shows at 1.52V in CPUz and PC Wizard 2008 and the Northbridge and Southbridge coolers are only just a little bit warm with no cooling on them at all.
This motherboard is absolutely superb at overclocking dual-cores.
Things I have discovered today;
On the BIOS boot screen it always says 667MHz - even when it's set to 800MHz in the BIOS.
1.58V is not enough to get 4.5GHz stable with my current E8400 CPU.
+0.35V isn't enough to keep my G.Skill PC8500 RAM stable at 1000MHz under full load.
it should be STARTUP
I disagree now. SATA should be set to Fixed for high FSB overclocking.
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Nice shots WJA96, any chance of some benches with a quad? because this is what im probably going to end up getting. thanks.
I can, but I won't be able to do it until next weekend as I'm working away at the moment and I only get home late Friday and then I have to leave again Sunday evening.
I wouldn't worry with the Quad if that's all that's stopping you buying a motherboard - my best Q6600's are 3.8GHz/8 Hours Prime Stable on my J&W IP35-Pro, and that's about all they'll do on any other P35 board. I have just got a Gigabyte X38-DS4 but it's still in the box and I literally haven't had time to try it out yet.
If I were you, I would be tempted to wait for the J&W X38 board to be released as that will almost certainly drop the prices on the P35 boards. And I'll probably have mine on MM soon anyway now I've tested it about as far as I think it's going to go.
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Thats exactly whats planned. Though knowing me, i'll probably go, oh look the X38 is out making the P35 is abit cheaper now, but I'll get the X38 regardless. Well I'll keep waiting and counting the pennies waiting. That said, intels price cut in march of making the 6700 = the 6600's retail price and thus making the 6600 cheaper is kinda making me want to wait, which means I'll pick up a cheaper 6600 + a J&W X38 board. Now if only they did ATI HD 3970's...
I definitely think the board needs a wider range of voltage adjustments for extreme overclocking, but I think it's fair to say that J&W weren't telling porkies when they say the board is an excellent overclocker. How anyone ever got anywhere with the V1.2 BIOS is a mystery to me though.
Are you thinking of getting a Q9450 then?[Edit - just saw your last post - Q6600 is a good chip in this board]
Are you thinking of getting a Q9450 then?[Edit - just saw your last post - Q6600 is a good chip in this board]
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I considered the Q9450 but the issue is, although a) its faster clock for clock, and b) it has SSE4.1 etc its still only going to clock as fast as my RAM will allow, and I have a Corsair Twin2X4096-6400C5 Kit @ 5-5-5-18 from OcUK earlier this month when it was on offer. Because the multi is lower the FSB needs to be higher and thus strains the RAM as you know. I'm not sure, plus the price will be a lot higher, the Q6600 will be about £130 by the time I go to order later march, where as the Q9450 will probably be 200+ still, making it considerable less attractive, your views?
Edit: 1+ on the voltage options, never can have enough options (just make sure its labeled as dangerous)
Edit: 1+ on the voltage options, never can have enough options (just make sure its labeled as dangerous)
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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2769689&postcount=11
this is what I was working on, and April instead of march.
this is what I was working on, and April instead of march.
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I was told to avoid OEM chips because of the 1 year warranty, mhmmm so many choices, I'd love a second hand Q6600 but at the moment there isnt a good second hand price for them so I'm kind of limited to first hand. Don't trust auction sites as I'm sure people have piped excess volts through it hence selling lol.
Keep posting! The going rate on Member's Market is about £135 delivered so we're expecting them to be about £110 delivered once the new Yorkfields come out. Access to Member's Market is 250 posts and 3 months membership but there are loads of solid second hand bargains on there, from people you can trust.
On the OEM thing, your warranty is void once you overclock anyway and there is no evidence that over-volting has ever damaged a current Intel CPU, so I wouldn't let that put you off.
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That's fair enough, well 80+ days to go I guess, well lets hope this motherboard is rock solid and cheap by then lol.
I think it's rock solid and cheap now. The sad thing is that this could have been a huge success if they had launched at £65 with the current BIOS. I'm literally praying they don't make the same mistake with the X38 boards as, if they launch those at the same time the Q9x50's come to market, then they could do really well. But if it's launched with another half-done BIOS then it could sink them with price-conscious enthusiasts.
I have to say I really like this board, I love the digital read out of the back, though I had some codes come up that weren't in the back on the manual. The amount of options you can change to tweak is very good also. There is very little variance is voltage readings from what is set in bios and what is reported in other s/w.
The minimal items to receive with the board may annoy some people, but if like me who has a shed loads of spare parts you'll more than likely just had the ide cable, sata cable and power cable to your collection!
If this board had of come out originaly with the current bios I would have ordered 4 straight away for the builds i've recently done for friends, instead of getting a few p35 asus and gigabyte boards
The minimal items to receive with the board may annoy some people, but if like me who has a shed loads of spare parts you'll more than likely just had the ide cable, sata cable and power cable to your collection!
If this board had of come out originaly with the current bios I would have ordered 4 straight away for the builds i've recently done for friends, instead of getting a few p35 asus and gigabyte boards