*****OFFICIAL OcUK/JW IP35 Pro THREAD*****

Fair enough, just wanted to point it out so the thread didn't get derailed :) There have been a couple of threads I've been reading that have been really good then was nothing but complaining against price and was locked.

I think they'd be mad to lock this thread. It's the primary sales aid for the product.

WJA96, with the experience you have had with the IP35 pro, will you be getting the X38 board on launch? Judging from what has been said they have learnt their lesson about the BIOS so sounds like they'll do a better shot of it out of the box :)

Yes, of course I'll be getting one! I wouldn't miss it for anything. I don't doubt that it will be a significantly more mature product than the P35 board, and I'll be testing it against MSI and Gigabyte X38 boards.

Most of the reason forums are useful is for the opinions of products like this where you wouldn't normally look at it due to it being a "value" board and not a well-known brand.

Yes, absolutely - look at the initial 'review' material that OcUK/J&W showed us, it wasn't representative of the shipping board with the V1.2 BIOS, but a few posts on the forums made sure that the message got out fast.
 
WJA96 you may get your 8400 over 400 but what about quad ?. I did not post any screens of myn at 450 i think it was on the msi as it needed 1.6 volts and was red hot.
I only posted what it was stable at and usable at 24/7 who cares what it does top if it kills its self doing it ?.
Ram was not auto set to 667 and 4.4.4.15 and 5.5.5.15 if set to 800 it does not post full stop even if fsb is over 400
Volt seem better since downgraded bios to 1.3.
1.381 set in bios reads 1.32 in bios under load it drops to 1.302 cpuz reports & everest.
Most i have managed so far is 3.4 but not stable :(.
As for sending it back not really thought about it but they say on the web site its a extreme performance, maximum stability and unbelievable overclocking potential so it don't really do what it supposed to well i could be wrong on that thought
 
WJA96 you may get your 8400 over 400 but what about quad ?. I did not post any screens of myn at 450 i think it was on the msi as it needed 1.6 volts and was red hot.

I have already explained that I am not able to swap CPUs at the drop of a hat at the moment. I will put a Q6600 G0 in on Friday evening/Saturday morning and run it up again. I was able to get 3.8GHz 8 hours prime stable out of mine, and I have good water cooling so I can put 1.6V through it and it loads at about 65C which I consider perfectly acceptable for 24/7 use - check my F@H scores for proof that my rigs run 24/7 100% - 8800ppd from 3 systems!

I only posted what it was stable at and usable at 24/7 who cares what it does top if it kills its self doing it ?.
Ram was not auto set to 667 and 4.4.4.15 and 5.5.5.15 if set to 800 it does not post full stop even if fsb is over 400

It will be something simple. The board does do odd things - it reboots looking like it hasn't changed the overclock but actually it has reset the DRAM settings for you to get a stable overclock. I'm not entirely sure how the failed overclock reset works, but it seems to maintain all the settings in the BIOS even though it hasn't actually applied them. I suspect that what actually happens is it boots off the spare BIOS and then lets you adjust the primary BIOS again.

Volt seem better since downgraded bios to 1.3.
1.381 set in bios reads 1.32 in bios under load it drops to 1.302 cpuz reports & everest.

I'm not sure if you understand how the voltage monitors work but they are simply converters - the chip returns a value between, say, 0 and 255 and the program interpreting it displays a value according to what it has been told. CPUz and Everest apply a correction factor so you cannot compare the BIOS reading with the CPUz or Everest reading. Download PCWizard 2008 and set it to update every second then check the CPU core voltage at idle. Then load the CPU 100% and watch what happens to the value. On boards like the ASUS P5K with horrible VDroop you can see a drop of as much as 0.1V under load at high overclocks. That doesn't happen on the J&W IP35-Pro.

The only real way you can measure the voltages is with a volt meter and I've done that too, and I can assure you that the voltages are exceptionally stable. I've tested pretty much every P35 board out there (and posted my results/sold most of them on MM if you want proof) and this isn't a bad board at all.

Most i have managed so far is 3.4 but not stable :(.

OK - well I was able to hit 3.3GHz stable with a G0 on the V1.2 BIOS (see post 20 for the screenies) and then I got 3.6GHz with V1.3 then 3.8GHz with V1.3b once I started to manipulate the PCIe BUS speed and mess with the SATA settings. If you read my posts I have consistently said it's better with dual-cores, and that it loves high FSBs (ie. it's better with 1333MHz CPUs than 800MHz CPUs). I will put a Q6600 back in this weekend and run it up to speed again, then post screenies, although I think it's starting to get ridiculous that I'm basically demo-ing the board for OcUK.

As for sending it back not really thought about it but they say on the web site its a extreme performance, maximum stability and unbelievable overclocking potential so it don't really do what it supposed to well i could be wrong on that thought

I would say for the £65 you paid for it it probably meets most peoples expectations, and then they'll probably just mutter something about your overclocking skillz:p Certainly, the blurb has a bit too much hyperbole, but then the guy who's buying/selling these has a tendency to use big fonts....

And as for the web site reviews - they are hilarious;

OcUk Website said:
Reviewed by: John Everitt

ery pleased but Note-Board requires 8 pin eATX not 4 pin ATX from your powersupply.Converters are avalable if your powersupply needs one. I had to stop mid-build for two days till I got one,and I am not very grown up about that sort of thing.Still a very very good budget board.

Well, no, that's wrong.

OcUK Website said:
Reviewed by: juan

mmm were to start, good board pretty sexy aswell, but bad in the OC department, had to overclock by 1mhz at a time, doubt i am doing it wrong like cause when i OC to around 334mhz x 9 wont change and only changes when u put it up by 1mhz at a time pitty, cause i like this board and would reccomend to a first time builder

He doesn't say what CPU he has, but as he's seduced by how pretty it is, let's assume he's skill-less and he's got an E8400.

OcUK Website said:
Reviewed by: MadmarcViper

whilst looking for a quad core based product to upgrade my old athlon xp2700 rsan diego ig i stumbled accorss this board on the bundle deal with the q6600 chip, As the board did not have a badge name like abit,asus,gigabyte,dfi i was very sceptical about its quality and overclocking options. In a nutshell i put my faith in overclockers choic and bought it as part of the bundle set with 4 gig of ram and the q6600 go slacr cpu,i have the rig running at 2.2 gig.
The motherboard lets you control multiplier,front side bus of the cpu, ddr, cpu and chipset voltages. plenty of sata options on the board.
My only gripe so far is the lack of support on the J&W website as there is no old or new bios for this board to download nor flashing option this board is not well known and googling it will bring back minimal results accross the globe.
The documentation that comes with this board is limited but if your not a tech guru dont worry its fully understandable to build a rig. all in all worth it.

You think you've got trouble - this guy has overclocked his Q6600 G0 to 2.2GHz. The fact he says there are plenty of SATA options on a board he claims to have bought on the 5th of January would make me think he never saw the SATA options (there weren't any on the release BIOS).

Hmmmm... A bit of poetic licence perhaps?
 
Thanks for reply i did not exspect you to drop every thing and try your Q6600 m8y not what i was asking.
As for £65 yes i did pay that but hardly cheap realy for an unknown name but i did like the look off it and was a bit sucked in buck the big words :)
As for my overclocking skillz i have been overclocking for over 10 years not saying i have got any better at it but i get buy :)
O and its now sitting at 3.4 took 2 sticks of ram out but as soon as i get over 380fsb no chance just resets all the time :(
 
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Thanks for reply i did not exspect you to drop every thing and try your Q6600 m8y not what i was asking.
As for £65 yes i did pay that but hardly cheap realy for an unknown name but i did like the look off it and was a bit sucked in buck the big words :)
As for my overclocking skillz i have been overclocking for over 10 years not saying i have got any better at it but i get buy :)
O and its now sitting at 3.4 took 2 sticks of ram out but as soon as i get over 380fsb no chance just resets all the time :(

Well...I did manage to oc my QX6850 to around 450FSB,
with the oldest bios (September)...
it's ok.

quad4g32m.jpg
 
I think kenofstephen is talking about the Rev 1.0 BIOS which was superb for overclocking, but was very, very unstable for me. He did post a download link to it for me to try earlier in the thread. As I say, it was brilliant for overclocking but not so good in Word!
 
WJA96 thanks for the bios help now running the 1.3b bios :) but i did haqve to use 1.92 winflash the one on j &w still errored but im kicking a very tidy 3.8ghz now and using a lot less voltage than before, was wondering how the 2 x1950 pros run on this board that u told another user you had :) am also thinging about upgrading from my geil ram to something thats rated around the 1066-1100mhz mark as my geil is loaded with 2.2 v and kicking 948mhz lol so i think thats sdtopping me getting to 4ghz not bad for 800 mhz rated ram :D
 
I think kenofstephen is talking about the Rev 1.0 BIOS which was superb for overclocking, but was very, very unstable for me. He did post a download link to it for me to try earlier in the thread. As I say, it was brilliant for overclocking but not so good in Word!

actually I have been using it from Sept 2007 to Feb 2008 until 1 or 2 weeks I upgraded to v1.3 as to try the Winflash, not because of anything annoying me. :D
 
WJA96 thanks for the bios help now running the 1.3b bios :) but i did haqve to use 1.92 winflash the one on j &w still errored but im kicking a very tidy 3.8ghz now and using a lot less voltage than before, was wondering how the 2 x1950 pros run on this board that u told another user you had :) am also thinging about upgrading from my geil ram to something thats rated around the 1066-1100mhz mark as my geil is loaded with 2.2 v and kicking 948mhz lol so i think thats sdtopping me getting to 4ghz not bad for 800 mhz rated ram :D

I do indeed have a pair of X1950 pro's and I'm looking for another pair. I'll be testing them sometime over the weekend. I would like to think they'll get close to a single 8800GTX at higher resolutions.

If you want fast RAM then the 4Gb PC8000 G.Skill is what I'm geting good results with at the moment. I've also had excellent results with 2 sticks of PC8500 Ballistix.
 
what board are u runnign if your goign to run 4 x1950 pros? or have i read your last post wrong?

I have been eying up the kingston ram (1150mhz) as it has 5-5-5-15 timing as well as allowing for voltage increase up to 2.4v allowing for a massive fsb overclock :) isnt 4gb still a bit pointless? especially at the priice of 8500 like the gskill stuff what works best for a high fsb overclock? what speeds have you managed with *** ballistix ram (fsb) futherst ive got is 490 with 800mhz geil :) but its pushing it and wont boot after 490 so plan is higher rated speed ram and get beyond 4ghz :) ?
 
ok...question from me.

My comp is prime stable over many hours reports a max of about 50 c..I play crysis no probs etc. and use the computer all the time however when I sometimes take the computer out of standby (thereby the computer has been doing nothing) only happened twice in about 2 months or so but still bothersome uguru reports 83 degrees c for the cpu with nothing running - cores are on idle I checked - nothing freezes but as soon as I get it I reboot and then check the bios straightaway which reports low temperatures(in the 30s) . I then go into windows and it's all fine again.

It's happened twice in about 2 months or so - the cooler is on fully etc as above.

I did do a check on google and some others have found its uguru playing up.

Any users on here experienced the same thing?
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I think I will pickup the cheaper IP35-S from OcUK. X38 mobos are overpriced IMHO. I wish J&Ws was out now, but I doubt it will be under <£100 anymore
 
what board are u runnign if your goign to run 4 x1950 pros? or have i read your last post wrong?

I have been eying up the kingston ram (1150mhz) as it has 5-5-5-15 timing as well as allowing for voltage increase up to 2.4v allowing for a massive fsb overclock :) isnt 4gb still a bit pointless? especially at the priice of 8500 like the gskill stuff what works best for a high fsb overclock? what speeds have you managed with *** ballistix ram (fsb) futherst ive got is 490 with 800mhz geil :) but its pushing it and wont boot after 490 so plan is higher rated speed ram and get beyond 4ghz :) ?

I'm looking to build two gaming rigs with Crossfire - hence I have two and I'm looking for two more. I also want to be able to verify these claims about the 16x/4x vs 16x/16x PCIe slots hence I need to be able to run x38 and P35 boards side by side. X1950Pro's are an excellent compromise between power and second-hand prices hence I'm going for those.

On the RAM I would probably plump for the PC8500 Ballistix as it runs fine at the low-ish voltages available on this board. The G.Skill just wants a touch more to be stable at the top end.
 
I think you have the vastly more expensive (but apparently not fault free) Abit IP35-Pro;)

Yes that's right.....and it's not fault free well I didn't know that rolleyes: .It might not be a fault with the motherboard lol well according to other sites it's the software of uguru. Since I have sp1 on uguru now doesn't give an error on windows shutdown so that was a windows thing on uguru ..let's hope this issue gets sorted.


:p
 
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Yes that's right.....and it's not fault free well I didn't know that rolleyes: .It might not be a fault with the motherboard lol well according to other sites it's the software of uguru. Since I have sp1 on uguru now doesn't give an error on windows shutdown so that was a windows thing on uguru ..let's hope this issue gets sorted.


:p

It's not the same manufacturer - the names are very similar, but it's a totally different motherboard made by different people in a different country. Sorry, but you're in the wrong thread;)
 
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