*****OFFICIAL OcUK/JW IP35 Pro THREAD*****

Credit where it's due - the customer service and support we're getting from kenofstephen and J&W is simply superb. I hope kenofstephen's boss reads these threads because he's doing a geat job for J&W and their customers.

I also think that the J&W attitude has made this thread a really nice place to post recently. We've got a very positive, collaborative, feeling going that I think we have all participated in, although I admit I was very hard to begin with.

Thanks again kenofstephen.
 
Hi, i have a e4500 running in this mobo and i am going to attempt to overclock it. Would it be possible for someone to give me a idiots rough guide to doing this, i was thinking of upping the FSB, also i am using the stock cooler has anyone any suggestions of a better cpu cooler to buy.
I am currently using 3gig of this ram
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-030-GL&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=144

With an E4500 I would simply put the FSB on linear and turn it up to 250, then try 270 and then 300. You shouldn't to adjust much else as the voltage control is excellent on default and the chipset will easily cope with 200-350 FSB without adjustment. Possibly lock the PCIe speed to 'By PLL' and then 100. Leave SATA on Startup.
 
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You can either cut it as suggested above or use a small screwdriver to push the pin out of the SIL connector and then slot it into the next one.
 
I had some left over cash from a bonus and was intrigued by this board so bought a few parts for a testing. What sort of clock should I expect from the following setup?

JW IP35 Pro
E2200
2gb of G.Skill PC6400 (CAS4 Dual Channel Kit (F2-6400CL4D-2GBHK)
AC Pro 7
500W psu

Also any settings relevant to the e2200 i should change?

Cheers

Try just turning up the fsb. Less adjustment, more overclock seems to be the trick with this board.
 
I haven't been keeping up with the thread and I'm missing anything relating to the SATA fixes, does the new BIOS support SATA300/SATAII yet?

Is it similar to an IP35-E? Very close pricing from very different names(Well, brand names, I mean =P). Sorry if I'm being noobish or anything.

Sorry - but I missed this before. The SATA II/AHCI issue is now fixed, yes. This board is significantly better than an Abit IP35-E for slightly less money. The hardware has always been rock solid and now the firmware/BIOS upgrades really do make it a superb overclocker. Even if you're not overclocking it is a very fast board, and all the voltages are very stable. The only features it doesn't have are Firewire and RAID, so if you need those you'll need to look at an Abit IP35 or one of the Gigabyte P35 boards.
 
does it also happen on your external sound card as you said before?
this sounds strange. :confused:
this is the first time we got such report.
anyway, will take a look at this.

Choppy sound was a huge issue with Realtek AC97 hardware with Vista Beta. It was largely resolved by January 2007. Vista takes total control of sound output and it has taken the sound card developers a long time to realise that they have to do what Microsoft wants or or it just won't work. I'm using the HD audio on mine and it's fine with the current drivers on Vista 64. Are you on 64 or 32-bit Vista?
 
I've had a bit of a play about this afternoon and I'm quite pleased with the results;

45GHz.jpg


I'm not claiming it's Prime stable (it's not) but it is good enough for a suicide shot. By knocking back the FSB to 495 I can run SuperPi in 10.516 which is good enough to be 3rd in the official OcUK overall table and I'm currently priming at 4.25Ghz which does appear to be utterly stable.

There is NO indicated Vdroop at 1.52V set in BIOS (shows at 1.52V in CPUz and PC Wizard 2008 and the Northbridge and Southbridge coolers are only just a little bit warm with no cooling on them at all.

This motherboard is absolutely superb at overclocking dual-cores.

Things I have discovered today;

On the BIOS boot screen it always says 667MHz - even when it's set to 800MHz in the BIOS.
1.58V is not enough to get 4.5GHz stable with my current E8400 CPU.
+0.35V isn't enough to keep my G.Skill PC8500 RAM stable at 1000MHz under full load.

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Nice shots WJA96, any chance of some benches with a quad? because this is what im probably going to end up getting. thanks.

I can, but I won't be able to do it until next weekend as I'm working away at the moment and I only get home late Friday and then I have to leave again Sunday evening.

I wouldn't worry with the Quad if that's all that's stopping you buying a motherboard - my best Q6600's are 3.8GHz/8 Hours Prime Stable on my J&W IP35-Pro, and that's about all they'll do on any other P35 board. I have just got a Gigabyte X38-DS4 but it's still in the box and I literally haven't had time to try it out yet.

If I were you, I would be tempted to wait for the J&W X38 board to be released as that will almost certainly drop the prices on the P35 boards. And I'll probably have mine on MM soon anyway now I've tested it about as far as I think it's going to go.
 
I definitely think the board needs a wider range of voltage adjustments for extreme overclocking, but I think it's fair to say that J&W weren't telling porkies when they say the board is an excellent overclocker. How anyone ever got anywhere with the V1.2 BIOS is a mystery to me though.

Are you thinking of getting a Q9450 then?[Edit - just saw your last post - Q6600 is a good chip in this board]
 
They won't drop the price of the Q6600's as the Q9x50s are more expensive. It will drop the price on second-hand ones quite substantially though.
 
Yes, but at the bottom of the market you could buy a Q6600 for £145 OEM and they're £170 now. They'll cut the price back to £145 again sadly.
 
I was told to avoid OEM chips because of the 1 year warranty, mhmmm so many choices, I'd love a second hand Q6600 but at the moment there isnt a good second hand price for them so I'm kind of limited to first hand. Don't trust auction sites as I'm sure people have piped excess volts through it hence selling lol.

Keep posting! The going rate on Member's Market is about £135 delivered so we're expecting them to be about £110 delivered once the new Yorkfields come out. Access to Member's Market is 250 posts and 3 months membership but there are loads of solid second hand bargains on there, from people you can trust.

On the OEM thing, your warranty is void once you overclock anyway and there is no evidence that over-volting has ever damaged a current Intel CPU, so I wouldn't let that put you off.
 
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well lets hope this motherboard is rock solid and cheap by then lol.

I think it's rock solid and cheap now. The sad thing is that this could have been a huge success if they had launched at £65 with the current BIOS. I'm literally praying they don't make the same mistake with the X38 boards as, if they launch those at the same time the Q9x50's come to market, then they could do really well. But if it's launched with another half-done BIOS then it could sink them with price-conscious enthusiasts.
 
If this board had of come out originaly with the current bios I would have ordered 4 straight away for the builds i've recently done for friends, instead of getting a few p35 asus and gigabyte boards

Yes. I've been recommending Gigabyte and Abit for the past 6 weeks or so, and I wouldn't have done that with the current BIOS.

The only other boards reported to be hitting 500FSB with the E8x00 series are the £150+ X-series boards, so the J&W really is doing well here.
 
Well, if it's across both the onboard sound and two different soundcards, it sounds like something very general in software. Is it any particular application?
 
out of itnerest wats the highest fsb anyone has got on the board with an e2*** series chip. im hitting a wall at around 370-375 bus speed with my e2140, just wont boot after that no matter what voltages i set for cpu, ram, fsb and chipset. Got pcie locked and sata set to hard drive. I no it could be a dud cpu but its currently doing 2.9 on stock volts, anyone any ideas?

I have an E2180 and I was able to get 3.6GHz (360x10) just by setting the following;

DRAM timings to [Manual], [5], [5], [5], [15] (your timings may be different), [667MHz] and leave everything else on [AUTO].

Turn off the C1E in the CPU settings

Turn up the CPU voltage (I was using 1.375V)

Set the FSB to LINEAR

Turn up the FSB to something sensible

Set the RAM divider (I usually use 1:1 or 1:1.2)

Set the PCIe to PLL

Set the PCIe Bus speed to 100

Set the SATA to [FIXED]

You generally don't need to use any extra chipset voltage with this board and the 667MHz strap is good until 400MHz FSB, after that I find the 800MHz srap is more stable.
 
hey WJA96 cheers for the reply, Tried the settings you suggested and made no difference, still cant seem to break the 375fsb barrier, maybe its just my chip. In fact to break 366 i have to up the pcie frequency to 110...

The only thing I can suggest is really turn up the CPU voltage. Just in case. I've just bought an early 2140 from Alllec which I hope to pick up tomorrow or Wednesday so I'll give it another go next weekend.

One question though - do you have the 4-pin molex connected at the bottom of the board?
 
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