Official OcUK Ryzen 3 review thread

humbug · 27 Jul 2017 at 18:07

Martini1991 said:
Don't understand the relevance

If it was a GTX 1060 it may have been bottlenecked by the FX-8350. I'm saying the RX 480's efficient threading probably saved it from an embarrassment.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 27 Jul 2017 at 18:08

RavenXXX2 said:
It is ROTT, so yeah BS results on CPU intensivemountain pass.

If it is the internal benchmark it can vary from run to run even on the same CPU,so its not that reliable.

Its better to do a custom run through which is what I did when I reviewed a GTX1080 and an RX470.

RavenXXX2 · 27 Jul 2017 at 18:28

Yeah well they don't say so they are useless at reviews.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 27 Jul 2017 at 18:32

Having said that when you come to think of it,the Ryzen 3 1200 at £99 is amazing value. Plonk that in a budget B350 motherboard for £70,and you still have an upgrade path all the way upto something like a Ryzen 7 1700.

Even the APUs although based on Excavator cores seem to have decent graphics perform too,so I am really interested to see how the A8 9600 performs,and that still has a great upgrade path.

I do wonder if BR CPUs will have a short life though,with Raven Ridge apparently out later in the year for laptops,I wonder if they will last even a year in the lineup??

Chrisc · 27 Jul 2017 at 20:13

Martini1991 said:
Would have liked to see these come in cheaper. But still, its progress

Everybody would like things cheaper BUT £99 for a quad core CPU thats incredible.

Martini1991 · 27 Jul 2017 at 20:32

Chrisc said:
Everybody would like things cheaper BUT £99 for a quad core CPU thats incredible.

It's nothing new, we've already had quad cores at this price point.

I just wish Ryzen clocked better. It's the one thing that dampens my enthusiasm.
I love my 1700, but I wish I had another 800MHZ.

Chrisc · 27 Jul 2017 at 20:40

Martini1991 said:
It's nothing new, we've already had quad cores at this price point.

I just wish Ryzen clocked better. It's the one thing that dampens my enthusiasm.
I love my 1700, but I wish I had another 800MHZ.

hmmmm i get what you're saying. Personally my 1700 runs everything perfect and im really not sure id notice a different if the clock speeds read 4.5ghz. I think we have gotten to an age where clock speed isnt as relevant as it used to be.

DONOHUE07 · 27 Jul 2017 at 21:04

How does the Ryzen 3 1200 compare to the fx8350 in real world gaming performance?

I'm tempted to replace my fx8350 for a 1200 and a cheap motherboard (https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asro...am4-ddr4-micro-atx-motherboard-mb-156-ak.html)
And in a year or so put a 1700 or a zen2 cpu in.

I'm not expecting miracles from a £99 cpu, but if single threaded gaming performance is even marginally better then I think it worth the trade off, especially considering I'll be a on a new platform with an upgrade path

Martini1991 · 27 Jul 2017 at 21:09

DONOHUE07 said:
How does the Ryzen 3 1200 compare to the fx8350 in real world gaming performance?

I'm tempted to replace my fx8350 for a 1200 and a cheap motherboard (https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asro...am4-ddr4-micro-atx-motherboard-mb-156-ak.html)
And in a year or so put a 1700 or a zen2 cpu in.

I'm not expecting miracles from a £99 cpu, but if single threaded gaming performance is even marginally better then I think it worth the trade off, especially considering I'll be a on a new platform with an upgrade path

I personally wouldn't bother moving.
I was never a fan of the FX8's, but I don't think a move to a quad core ryzen will be a good move.

Might be better to leave it until you're ready for Ryzen 2.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 27 Jul 2017 at 21:11

DONOHUE07 said:
How does the Ryzen 3 1200 compare to the fx8350 in real world gaming performance?

I'm tempted to replace my fx8350 for a 1200 and a cheap motherboard (https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asro...am4-ddr4-micro-atx-motherboard-mb-156-ak.html)
And in a year or so put a 1700 or a zen2 cpu in.

I'm not expecting miracles from a £99 cpu, but if single threaded gaming performance is even marginally better then I think it worth the trade off, especially considering I'll be a on a new platform with an upgrade path

Ignore that ASRock and look at this one:

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AB350M/

Its around the same price at many retailers and has a 9 phase VRM with cooling.

Edit!!

OcUK have it for a few more quid it seems:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asro...am4-ddr4-micro-atx-motherboard-mb-155-ak.html

Whether the move is worth it not,it might be worth looking at some reviews in the OP,which might have comparisons with the FX8350.

AiiR · 28 Jul 2017 at 00:34

DONOHUE07 said:
How does the Ryzen 3 1200 compare to the fx8350 in real world gaming performance?

I'm tempted to replace my fx8350 for a 1200 and a cheap motherboard (https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asro...am4-ddr4-micro-atx-motherboard-mb-156-ak.html)
And in a year or so put a 1700 or a zen2 cpu in.

I'm not expecting miracles from a £99 cpu, but if single threaded gaming performance is even marginally better then I think it worth the trade off, especially considering I'll be a on a new platform with an upgrade path

Well going from a FX cpu to a Zen CPU you can expect a 40+% IPC boost straight away, you also have an upgrade path to later revisions for the next 4 years.

Doogles · 28 Jul 2017 at 00:38

RavenXXX2 said:
For gaming the i3/Pentiums are beating the R3 so not so RIP, especially the sub £100 Pentiums. No IGPU is a miss at this price point as well. Can't help but feel the R3 would look much better at sub £100. AMD pricing is kind of messed up when you can get an 12 thread for £60 more.

Considering some Ubisoft games don't even launch with 2 cores I'd take the R3, not only that but I can also overclock them on cheap motherboards.

DONOHUE07 · 28 Jul 2017 at 05:32

AiiR said:
Well going from a FX cpu to a Zen CPU you can expect a 40+% IPC boost straight away, you also have an upgrade path to later revisions for the next 4 years.

Yeah this is pretty much my thought process, i only game on my PC so I don't think I'll be loosing out from dropping down from an 8 core cpu to a 4 core cpu in the short term either. Plus I have a newborn baby at home so my game time is limited at the moment anyway!

Martini1991 · 28 Jul 2017 at 07:49

AiiR said:
Well going from a FX cpu to a Zen CPU you can expect a 40+% IPC boost straight away, you also have an upgrade path to later revisions for the next 4 years.

But Ryzen doesn't clock as well, that 40% lessens.

humbug · 28 Jul 2017 at 12:43

Its actually +52% from excavator, so thats about +65% from Vishera (FX-8350)

humbug · 28 Jul 2017 at 12:57

humbug said:
Its actually +52% from excavator, so thats about +65% from Vishera (FX-8350)

Actually we can work it out...

The FX-8370 has a one thread Turbo of 4.2Ghz, it scores 104 in Cinebench

The 1300X at 4Ghz scores 160, thats 54% highter, the FX-8370 is clocked 5% higher so add that to the 1300X and you end up with Ryzen having 59% Higher IPC

In MT the FX 8370 (8 Core) scores the same as the 1300X @ 4Ghz, so the Ryzen 1300X has much better MT scaling.

So in MT the lowest Ryzen SKU is as fast as the FX-8370 while in single threaded the 1300X is 60% faster.

Edit in fact Ryzen MT scaling is 97%, 160 x 4 = 640, the actual score is 620.

humbug · 28 Jul 2017 at 13:20

humbug said:
Actually we can work it out...

The FX-8370 has a one thread Turbo of 4.2Ghz, it scores 104 in Cinebench

The 1300X at 4Ghz scores 160, thats 54% highter, the FX-8370 is clocked 5% higher so add that to the 1300X and you end up with Ryzen having 59% Higher IPC

In MT the FX 8370 (8 Core) scores the same as the 1300X @ 4Ghz, so the Ryzen 1300X has much better MT scaling.

So in MT the lowest Ryzen SKU is as fast as the FX-8370 while in single threaded the 1300X is 60% faster.

Edit in fact Ryzen MT scaling is 97%, 160 x 4 = 640, the actual score is 620.

I've just realised another thing about this, Ryzen IPC is the same or just over that of Devils Canyon.

The single core Turbo of the 4970K is 4.4Ghz, at that is scores 173, Ryzen at 4Ghz is 160, add the 400Mhz clock difference (+10%) and you have 176.

http://ark.intel.com/products/80807/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_40-GHz

Martini1991 · 28 Jul 2017 at 13:33

I've seen single thread on cinebench that put Ryzen behind Haswell.

We need a proper updated thread here where we can actually see.

humbug · 28 Jul 2017 at 13:37

Martini1991 said:
I've seen single thread on cinebench that put Ryzen behind Haswell.

We need a proper updated thread here where we can actually see.

Pre 1006 BIOS?

Don't forget Ryzen has had some performance improvements since Launch.

Martini1991 · 28 Jul 2017 at 13:40

humbug said:
Pre 1006 BIOS?

Don't forget Ryzen has had some performance improvements since Launch.

Part of the problem with reviews.
Which is why we need some updates figures.