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Considering that even you quoted about ****** thermal pads, how can you compare temps if TTl only measured heatsink temp? Don't you think they will be cool if there will be issue der8auer mentioned about? Or did you already forget what you wrote earlier?considering der8auer said he couldn't sustain 4.6ghz on the asus prime and msi carbon (Tom tested both and found that they both ran as cool as the strix)
Considering that even you quoted about ****** thermal pads, how can you compare temps if TTl only measured heatsink temp? Don't you think they will be cool if there will be issue der8auer mentioned about? Or did you already forget what you wrote earlier?
and response in comments...
"I did the same testing with a Seasonic 1200 W PSU and the VRMs still throttle. It's not PSU related" der8auer
TTL tested both the prime the strix and gaming 3. if you actaully listen to this video...Different board with more power inputs than the Gaming 3. IF Tom Logan wanted to be a ******* , he should have at least used a similar board to the gaming 3 not a more expensive and better equipped one. Very much leaning to a lower power phased VRM`s on the gaming 3.
he captured the temperatures in the same place as the other guy. including the back of the PCB between the heatsink & the boardHeatsinks will be far cooler then the VRMs.
Want an example, run your CPU up to 80C and see how warm the CPU heatsink block is.
TTL tested both the prime the strix and gaming 3. if you actaully listen to this video...
Man this thread is confusing. One minute the cpus are power hungry and run hot, the next minute they are fine. One minute the heat sinks are rubbish the next minute they are not it's the psu. One minute der8auer is world class over clocker able to push these chips to 5ghz, the next he's an incompetent shill lol.
Anyone actually got one yet preferable someone who doesn't have a bias or any kind?
What we know and everyone agrees, from many here to reviewers?
a) The CPUs are power hungry
b) They run hot and cannot be cooled efficiently.
c) PCI-E lanes castrated even the higher models
d) Terrible value for money. eg 7820X +X299 vs 1700 + X370, let alone B350 board.
Add poor gaming performance compared to last gens flagship to that list.
One minute der8auer is world class over clocker able to push these chips to 5ghz, the next he's an incompetent shill lol.
OK so you've taken the time to pick out some bad ones. I could post up some good ones but whats the point? Anyone making a decision should look at all the reviews and make your own mind up rather than letting fanboys do it for you. As I said most of the game benchmarks show the 7900/7820 at the top or very near it.
I think they perform pretty well for what they are, which is not a gaming chip. Your just not going to buy a 7900x for gaming purposes, you'll be better of with a 7700k or a coffee lake.OK so you've taken the time to pick out some bad ones. I could post up some good ones but whats the point? Anyone making a decision should look at all the reviews and make your own mind up rather than letting fanboys do it for you. As I said most of the game benchmarks show the 7900/7820 at the top or very near it.
What we know and everyone agrees, from many here to reviewers?
a) The CPUs are power hungry
b) They run hot and cannot be cooled efficiently.
c) PCI-E lanes castrated even the higher models
d) Terrible value for money. eg 7820X +X299 vs 1700 + X370, let alone B350 board.
My point being its no better than the chip it replaced, for gaming.
It is a very fast chip no doubt but when its losing to its predecessor whilst running hotter and consuming more power it doesn't look good.
If this was a graphics card this would be a very different conversation.