Mr.Clark said:
Surely you opt out by carrying the "I'm a ******* and won't donate" card instead of the "I'm a nice person, use my organs" card that we have at the moment.
I do like the compromise of priority transplants for people who are donors, however. Seems fair to me.
surely the system now works well enough then ?
I'll stay here not carrying a card and you carry the "Im so high and mighty because my body will be used to save others card"
And priority transplants what a ******** Idea its like cutting off yer nose to spite yer face.
as it stands I dont want to donate my organs, however if i was in the situation whereby someone elses saved my life I may well change my mind. If Im told sorry because you arent willing to donate yours is nothing short of ridiculous.
I really hate overzealous pomped up guilt brigade warriors who think there cause is so just and high and mighty that they can go around calling everyone who does not agree with them "********"
if you want discussion stay in here, if you want to throw yer toys out of the pram and start slinging insults because people disagree with you go back to nursery school.
The question of opt in or opt out for many of us is more than a simple 2your a £$%£$% because you wont donate your organs" For example my missus wants to donate but as it stands I would say no. If you have to give consent which I believe you do at the hospital there is no way I would let them remove organs from my wife, eventhough they are her wishes. I have told her this and she understands why.
Simply I love her, she is my wife, I do not want anyone cutting her open and harvesting her organs after she dies, when she is dead that is it, I want to bury her altogether as she was born and as she dies, I want to put all of her to rest. That would make me happy I could live with that, to know I put to the grave an empty shell and that someone else who i do not now has parts of my loved one inside of her is not something i want to go through, the feeling that well some part of her does not wash with me. In all honesty it would upset me greatly knowing that.
Other people may well rejoice in the fact there partners saved lives, I would not, as it stands today this may change with time it may not but I dont fully think I could get over my wife passing knowing part of her was still alive, but thats just me.
That reflects like a mirror on me I would not be happy knowing that my organs would be harvested and i would be put to the grave an empty shell, which is why as it stands I would opt out.
The problem is I believe the intentions here are to create a system whereby it will be very difficult to opt out and organ donation will become the norm. I dont want that at all, the body is the only thing the state at present has nothing to do with and it in my view should stay that way.
The reason this is coming about is because there s a lack of organ donors that may well be true however if 99/9% of the nation feels like me there will always be a shortage of organ donors, the fact that its an opt in system means that anyone who wants to do so has ample chance, all through there lives, on there deathbed even and right up till the end. The problem with an opt out system is that depending on need the rules for opting out can be changed, you thought you were out however because you didnt send in an updated form every 6 months theres nothing we can do yer harvested.
A system where we as individuals have to opt out of a state programme system is very worrying to our basic freedoms, civil liberties and everything else that goes along with it.
As a different solution, they are saying they think more people would donate if they could, well lets increase advertising, lets have more taught about it in schools or wherever, lets make the system to opt in far easier to do, raise awareness of it and give everyone the oppurtunity to opt in ?
Question is why arent they doing that ? maybe its the pessimist in me but i can only think of sinister reasons.
(instead of now, where people who can't be bothered to opt in are just burned or buried)
