Osama bin Laden is dead - no graphic/violent images.

Did everyone read my edit in my last post? Do you agree? If you dont then you're a racist facist hitler worshipping scum!

(joke).
 
Ahleckz said:
Al Qaeda confirm that Bin Laden has been killed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13313201



May shut some of the naysayers up?
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They dont confirm anything of the sort in that article. It simply says that Al Qaeda say his death not shall be in vein and that there will be future attacks. The majority of the extremists probably had no clue he was (if he was) alive, as it would easily compromise him.

So the article heading is bs.
 
bhavv said:
I didnt watch QT, but seriously there are so many people actually defending Osama's right to a trial before being killed?

Is the west going absolutely bonkers?

Actually, ok fair enough. Forget trials, and forget all his guilt. We should have just put him in a house in the UK on housing benefits and incapacity benefit from the taxpayers pockets for the amount of mental trauma and depression the last 10 years have caused him.

If anyone tries to object, or act out against him, they should be jailed for 2 years for inciting racial hatred.
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Oh don't give me that ****. We have to maintain the moral highground. In the ideal world we would have remained civilised, captured him, taken him to yankland, give him a trial then hang him like a dog.

Going in there, blowing his brains out, dumping him in the sea and having a sketchy story which makes it look like a brutal murder in front of his family isn't a win.

Bin Laden was always going to die, but we could at least have done it smelling of roses.
 
bhavv said:
NO!

Barrack Obama is lying! the American Military is lying! Osama's daughter is lying! And Al Qaeda are also lying too!!!

Bin laden is still alive. He is in my basement eating my grilled potatoes!
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Yes how do you work it out ? Is god telling you that bin laden is still alive ?
For me, my head say they all lies, my heart say it all about obama USA re-election victory and my spirit mind say bin laden is alive in india somewhere but no beard and short hair!
 
Deific said:
They dont confirm anything of the sort in that article. It simply says that Al Qaeda say his death not shall be in vein and that there will be future attacks. The majority of the extremists probably had no clue he was (if he was) alive, as it would easily compromise him.

So the article heading is bs.
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""[Osama Bin Laden's blood] will remain, with permission from Allah, the Almighty, a curse that chases the Americans and their agents, and goes after them inside and outside their countries," it warned."

Sounds pretty much like they are saying that he's dead.
 
Al-Qaeda is foolish the USA thinking bin laden is dead. If there is more USA terror attack soon, mean osama bin laden still alive! or otherwise the threat attack will be fade away easy of no money from osama !
 
Ahleckz said:
""[Osama Bin Laden's blood] will remain, with permission from Allah, the Almighty, a curse that chases the Americans and their agents, and goes after them inside and outside their countries," it warned."

Sounds pretty much like they are saying that he's dead.
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Where do they say, "he's just been killed, we saw the body, we knew he was in the compound, we can confirm the US killed him 5 days ago"?

Oh, nowhere.

They're simply telling the world that his death will be the cause of revenge attacks. They don't know if he has just been killed or not, most probably had no clue if he was alive and certainly no idea where he was if he was alive. Like I said, only very few would have known to avoid compromising him.

And to think, you say the nutcases have little proof here or there - then you quote a very general statement and say, "yup sounds like they're pretty much saying..." :rolleyes:
 
bulldog147 said:
Al-Qaeda is foolish the USA thinking bin laden is dead. If there is more USA terror attack soon, mean osama bin laden still alive! or otherwise the threat attack will be fade away easy of no money from osama !
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My head hurts trying to read that :(
 
bulldog147 said:
Al-Qaeda is foolish the USA thinking bin laden is dead. If there is more USA terror attack soon, mean osama bin laden still alive! or otherwise the threat attack will be fade away easy of no money from osama !
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LMAO...You serious?
Didn't realise all the money came from 'Osama Bin Laden Bank of Terror'?
If there are more terror attacks it is because it can be carried out by ANYONE. OBL was not TERRORISM, he was behind it, not the sole person...
 
Deific said:
Where do they say, "he's just been killed, we saw the body, we knew he was in the compound, we can confirm the US killed him 5 days ago"?

Oh, nowhere.

They're simply telling the world that his death will be the cause of revenge attacks. They don't know if he has just been killed or not, most probably had no clue if he was alive and certainly no idea where he was if he was alive. Like I said, only very few would have known to avoid compromising him.

And to think, you say the nutcases have little proof here or there - then you quote a very general statement and say, "yup sounds like they're pretty much saying..." :rolleyes:
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I haven't seen the release from the website, and I'm afraid I've forgotten all the Arabic that I knew. I'm interpreting what I'm reading from various sources. I think you're just trying to hold onto some belief that he isn't dead for whatever reason.

Never once did I call someone a nutcase. Not sure what you're getting at there.
 
Received an email from Peter Joseph, don't know if some of you may have already seen it. Coincidentally has a part of my sig in it.

(Don't take these words as mine)

On May 1, 2011 Pres. Barack Obama appeared on national television with the spontaneous announcement that Osama bin Laden, the purported organizer of the tragic events of September 11th 2001, was killed by military forces in Pakistan.

Within moments, a media blitz ran across virtually all television networks in what could only be described as a grotesque celebratory display, reflective of a level of emotional immaturity that borders on cultural psychosis. Depictions of people running through the streets of New York and Washington chanting jingoistic American slogans, waving their flags like the members of some cult, praising the death of another human being, reveals yet another layer of this sickness we call modern society.

It is not the scope of this response to address the political usage of such an event or to illuminate the staged orchestration of how public perception was to be controlled by the mainstream media and the United States Government. Rather the point of this article is to express the gross irrationality apparent and how our culture becomes so easily fixed and emotionally charged with respect to surface symbology, rather than true root problems, solutions or rational considerations of circumstance.

The first and most obvious point is that the death of Osama bin Laden means nothing when it comes to the problem of international terrorism. His death simply serves as a catharsis for a culture that has a neurotic fixation on revenge and retribution. The very fact that the Government which, from a psychological standpoint, has always served as a paternal figure for it citizens, reinforces the idea that murdering people is a solution to anything should be enough for most of us to take pause and consider the quality of the values coming out of the zeitgeist itself.

However, beyond the emotional distortions and tragic, vindictive pattern of rewarding the continuation of human division and violence comes a more practical consideration regarding what the problem really is and the importance of that problem with respect to priority.

The death of any human being is of an immeasurable consequence in society. It is never just the death of the individual. It is the death of relationships, companionship, support and the integrity of familial and communal environments. The unnecessary deaths of 3000 people on September 11, 2001 is no more or no less important than the deaths of those during the World Wars, via cancer and disease, accidents or anything else.

As a society, it is safe to say that we seek a world that strategically limits all such unnecessary consequences through social approaches that allow for the greatest safety our ingenuity can create. It is in this context that the neurotic obsession with the events of September 11th, 2001 become gravely insulting and detrimental to progress. An environment has now been created where outrageous amounts of money, resources and energy is spent seeking and destroying very small subcultures of human beings that pose ideological differences and act on those differences through violence.

Yet, in the United States alone each year, roughly 30,000 people die from automobile accidents, the majority of which could be stopped by very simple structural changes. That's ten 9/11's each year... yet no one seems to pine over this epidemic. Likewise, over 1 million Americans die from heart disease and cancer annually - causes of which are now easily linked to environmental influences in the majority. Yet, regardless of the over 330 9/11's occurring each year in this context, the governmental budget allocations for research on these illnesses is only a small fraction of the money spent on “anti-terrorism” operations.

Such a list could go on and on with regard to the perversion of priority when it comes to what it means to truly save and protect human life and I hope many out there can recognize the severe imbalance we have at hand with respect to our values.

So, coming back to the point of revenge and retribution, I will conclude this response with a quote from Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., likely the most brilliant intuitive mind when it came to conflict and the power of non-violence. On September 15, 1963 a Birmingham Alabama church was bombed, killing four little girls attending Sunday school.

In a public address, Dr. King stated:

“What murdered these four girls? Look around. You will see that many people that you never thought about participated in this evil act. So tonight all of us must leave here with a new determination to struggle. God has a job for us to do. Maybe our mission is to save the soul of America. We can't save the soul of this nation throwing bricks. We can't save the soul of this nation getting our ammunitions and going out shooting physical weapons. We must know that we have something much more powerful. Just take up the ammunition of love.”

- Dr. Martin Luther King, 1963 -
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