Soldato
Actually, we really do. Look at the fractions for chief executives of universities and leaders of councils as a starting point. Then look at the police.
Over 75s now pay for TV license
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Actually, we really do. Look at the fractions for chief executives of universities and leaders of councils as a starting point. Then look at the police.
Soldato
I'm not sure any university ceo's or council leaders are being paid what lineker gets. Besides, those examples also carry a lot more responsibility than procrastinating over football and reading an autocue.
Off topic I know but the plod are owned.
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/police_company_information_2
Soldato
I didn't say they did - you said a fraction, I inferred that they're being paid a highly relevant fraction of what Lineker is.
I'm not going to entertain a discussion on the differing values of different jobs. There's too much that's subjective - for example, I could put the argument that appearing on live TV to 10 million people has a larger responsibility than chairing a meeting backed up by the entire council leadership team.
Soldato
Rubbish, EVERYTHING has a budget. I am sure Radio 3 will have a station head on 80k + a year and a swanky expense account, same goes for BBC 3 Online or whatever its called these days.
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They should be investing more on infrastructure away from London and education.
They have reduced corporation tax as an example of a tax cut so they are getting less money in.
Anyway this is off topic
Have the people moaning about salaries even looked at the BBC's fiscal report?
With a Revenue of ~£5 billion. Programs are ~£700m, executive/board pay is ~£4.5m, salaries are £1.45b overall ( the rest is i guess licensing/rent/whatever).
They employ 21,583 as of last year of which 20 are the board and committee so 21563 employees at a median salary of £42k (average is ~£38k), so assuming you'd want to reduce the median to the national median (which is just cruel considering the industry pay levels), that would potentially make up a similar number to the new policy.
The fact is that executive pay is actually not out of control and wouldn't do anything to their shortfall in the future, the pay for the whole staff could probably use a little cut, but i doubt it's going to help much when the fact is that those over 70's are going to become a rather chunky part of the population while everyone else reduces their usage of the service altogether.
With a Revenue of ~£5 billion. Programs are ~£700m, executive/board pay is ~£4.5m, salaries are £1.45b overall ( the rest is i guess licensing/rent/whatever).
They employ 21,583 as of last year of which 20 are the board and committee so 21563 employees at a median salary of £42k (average is ~£38k), so assuming you'd want to reduce the median to the national median (which is just cruel considering the industry pay levels), that would potentially make up a similar number to the new policy.
The fact is that executive pay is actually not out of control and wouldn't do anything to their shortfall in the future, the pay for the whole staff could probably use a little cut, but i doubt it's going to help much when the fact is that those over 70's are going to become a rather chunky part of the population while everyone else reduces their usage of the service altogether.
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Soldato
The petition has now exceeded 100'000 signatures.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/234627
Funny how BBC news has buried the story barely two days since the story broke yet other stories such as a milk shake thrown at Nigel Farage back on 20th May are still displayed prominently at the top of the Entertainment & Arts section, same section that the TV Licence story appeared in previously. Only way to find story now is to use the search function.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-48587936
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/234627
Funny how BBC news has buried the story barely two days since the story broke yet other stories such as a milk shake thrown at Nigel Farage back on 20th May are still displayed prominently at the top of the Entertainment & Arts section, same section that the TV Licence story appeared in previously. Only way to find story now is to use the search function.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-48587936
The percentage of pensioners in the top half of the overall population income distribution (AHC) in 2017/18 was 49per cent (based on equivalised data). In 1994/95this was 38per cent.
This difference is statistically significant.The increase occurred between 1994/95 and 2009/10.
So in general they are a lot better off than they used to be.
How is it unfair on you if you don't pay it and anyone else who doesn't pay it?
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I've got a solution to the whole issue. Once attenborough dies and nothing of merit is left on the BBC they close shop. Keep the news side of things I guess and they can be a 24/7 stream on youtube or something and on their own site. Everything else goes in the bin and we all get to enjoy having a TV without a stupid fee.
Without getting into whether you think the BBC should be state funded I think everyone would agree that paying a fixed fee "per household" for effectively owning a television which is connected to an aerial is an incredibly regressive, unfair.
It's a ridiculous way to find a television channel in 2019.
It's a ridiculous way to find a television channel in 2019.
Caporegime
No idea of it's been said already, but I can partially see why they're doing it.
They need the money, less and less people, particularly young people, are paying the fee now, let alone when they're old.
Is it a douche move? Yes, but what else would you do?
They need the money, less and less people, particularly young people, are paying the fee now, let alone when they're old.
Is it a douche move? Yes, but what else would you do?
Soldato
force them to go down the commercial channels route and compete on a level playing field with the rest of the commercial channels.
Caporegime
Why?
Soldato
Do away with the licence then and why shouldn't they compete on a level playing field in an open market just like any other company?
Even though I don't have a TV licence and think it's a waste of money, I do feel for old people. State pension is worthless when there are expenditures like council tax, TV licence, VAT etc. Do they actually have much left after that?
So the BBC thinks they are losing around £650 million per year from old people. What they should do is trim the fat like any other business would do when it isn't making money. Keep BBC 1 & 2 with budgets halved, Radio 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5. Cut the rest including the £100+ million on TV licence collections.
So the BBC thinks they are losing around £650 million per year from old people. What they should do is trim the fat like any other business would do when it isn't making money. Keep BBC 1 & 2 with budgets halved, Radio 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5. Cut the rest including the £100+ million on TV licence collections.
You're making a statement about budgets without evidence or what exactly to cut, the fact is that this welfare program can't survive when it's main demographic dont even pay for it and cutting budgets wont solve it's problem.
The fact is that the government should have just cut the BBC loose when it had the chance, they didn't, they instead granted it power over this policy and it's now using it, if the government didn't want them to change this policy, they should have kept it.
You can't criticize me for not providing evidence, and then say "the fact is" twice in your post without giving any evidence yourself.
Soldato
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48607896
Ben Fogle has donated salary to help these poor pensioners, the very same people who voted on mass for Brexit and its collapse of the UK economy and individual wealth for the younger generations for decades to come.
Ben Fogle has donated salary to help these poor pensioners, the very same people who voted on mass for Brexit and its collapse of the UK economy and individual wealth for the younger generations for decades to come.