Panorama - yoof unemployment

[RaohNS]

anyone heard the best way of getting qualifications? Its called Prison, a friend of a friend is getting out after serving 6years of a 10year sentence at some point next year iirc and i know for a fact that he's got a degree while he was in prison.

 

[daz]

anyone heard the best way of getting qualifications? Its called Prison, a friend of a friend is getting out after serving 6years of a 10year sentence at some point next year iirc and i know for a fact that he's got a degree while he was in prison.

Good for him.

For some people though, prison is basically like being sent to criminal school. When people go there, they simply learn how to become better criminals, make more money from their crimes and get away with things better.

 

[Tom0]

In my experience qualifications dont mean squat these days, its all about the interview or who you know not what.

Unless of course you're going for a Managers job or something, but even then "who you know" could land you it.

 

[daz]

I'd imagine the degree was from the Open University, which anyone can do at any stage in their life. Good for him for doing something productive with his time though.

 

[alexakasloth]

What's a YTS scheme?

 

[Senture]

In the meantime the rest of us have to foot the benefit bill until they are 'ready' to grow up.

It isn't so bad once you get onto the ladder, but when your education and life gets FUBAR right from the start, you're screwed.

I'll give a slight insight as to how much of a problem I live with.

The end of high school went very wrong for me. Foster placement broke down very badly and I was carted off to a childrens home. Populated with idiots who like seetting the fire alarm off when they feel like it, taking drugs in the house (going all the way up to A classes), police being called every single day, room being broken into, not getting on with a single damn one of them. Left school with 1 GCSE grade C, hardly impressive on the CV at all.

Then moved from that childerens home to another one, then onto another foster placement and then onto another all within 4 months. Got a job soon after in retail work, was booted out after 2 months because my performance wasn't good enough (B****cks, we had an internal intranet showing the ammount of sales each branch did per day. I managed to do more sales alone than 1/2 of the other entire branches did the whole day, on more than one occasion).

After a couple of months of nothing, I decided to do an NVQ course. Practical, hands on training, and a qualification too. The training wasn't done correctly and was entirely based off the fact that I had a GCSE in I.T. (which they knew I didn't).

Started on the level 3 NVQ this year and so far, nothing's been achieved. Only yesterday did I find out my college has gone into liquidation. So I'm sitting here at work, twiddling my thumbs doing jack all, bored stiff, not getting paid, and getting P****d on from all sides.

I don't like my position one bit, but I have bugger all power to do a damn thing about it. The ones with jobs such as my social worker all have this wonderful perception that it is easy to get going if you try. Took 6 months to find this place, searched the whole of London + 50 miles out maximum to meet yet another dead end.

Just my 2 cents worth

 

[scorza]

What's a YTS scheme?

Youth Training Scheme. They were big in the '80s but you hardly hear about them now. Friend of mine did one with British Aeropsace when he left school at 16. Starts off crap, earning like £30 a week (back then) but he ended up doing really well out of it.

I guess one of the reasons YTS's don't happen so much now is the decline of British manufacturing

 

[lemonkettaz]

there are still apprenticeships in a trade... like YTS isnt it? i dont know...

I know a few people that did that for £30 a week working 40hrs and that... in various trades..

they are raking it in now.

construction seems to be a good career choice at the moment

 

[Jonny ///M]

I dont see what the problem is around here,which is essentially a deprived area apparently.

I went to school,put up with the idiots i had to associate myself with but not get involved with. I got a part time job back in 05 and im still in the same job now. I stayed on at school to do a 6th year to gain some form of qaulification after messing up my 5th year. I'm at college at hnd level after only leaving school with one higher and an intermediate 2.

My cousin gave up on school in 5th year and went to a different college to start an NVQ in computing,he himself is now at HND level aswell. Only thing is he cant get a job,or doesnt want to get one.

My best mate did the same as my cousin but dropped out of the course and claimed benefits for 8 months or something before getting a job working on site with his uncle. ~£1100 a month for doing what would be hard work to most people. He gave up on that and has went back to the same college to start a level 1 mechanics course. I think it's just down to him not being able to follow something through till the end that influences his decisions.

Boy i work with started with us via an agency and now has a full time job within the company, him and another girl were the only 2 out of about 6 agency workers that got jobs as they were actually semi decent. He was on £50 a week for 40 hours a week or something daft. Regular pay is somehwere between £800-900.

Most of my mates have jobs in supermarkets and kfc but there is one guy who worked in mcdonalds for a month and is back on JSA! I know for a fact it's just because he is a lazy *******! He quite happily spends the money on drink and fags oh sorry rolling tobacco and skins.

Oh and just to add from what my mum tells me from doing interviews. Most of the people applying for jobs are too specific about when they can work due to college/uni or whatever. Nobody wants to work weekend etc. Also not a lot of them can count very well apparently when asked what is the total of 4 items at £3.99 or something.

 

[agw_01]

there are night schools, courses, self learn, warehouse work etc. there is no excuse for being lazy, other than they can afford to be,

id love to be tucked up in bed right now without a care, or presentations or stuff to be doing. would be much easier...

However, you get so bored of it after a while

I've been unemployed for 2 months now and am sick to death of it. I've been applying for jobs since I got made redundant, had one interview and no other feedback.

I'm desperate to get back to work!