Paperwork for kitchen/dining room knock through

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Will be having a new kitchen installed which includes knocking through a supporting wall to the dining room. I've had issues in the past where solicitors pick up issues with lack of paperwork for various works done on the house. For my work is this what I need? Done a quick Google and found this list.
  1. Signed BS7671 Electrical Safety Certificate
  2. Building Regulations Compliance Certificate
  3. Building Control Completion Certificate
BS7671 is that also known as a Part P? I assume the third is provided by the building regs team from the council. What is the 2nd? And am I missing anything.
 
@the_r_sole will probably explain better the differences between them and/or what you'd require for the work. In terms of what conveyancers will look for, things like electrical or boiler installs usually have a "compliance certificate" because the installations are carried out by a competent person e.g NICEIC contractor or gas safe registered engineer who notifies the Local Authority of the installation. The LA don't actually issue the certificate.

Building works can be signed off by either the LA building control or third party building control companies and so you'll have a building regulations approval and a completion certificate once the work is finished.
 
Thanks guys. No boiler install here. I'm going to get the council to check the RSJ install and because I'm converting a window to a patio door they will check that - the builder isn't fensa approved. There will a fair bit of electrical work. New lights, sockets and possibly a new circuit as my double oven and induction hob may need it.
 
BS7671 is that also known as a Part P?

No, BS7671 is a british standard entitled "Requirements for electrical installations" and is the IEE / IET wiring regulations adopted as a british standard. Part P is a section of the building regulations covering electrical safety, in domestic premises only (and other places where the supply is shared with a domestic premises, so the pub where the landlord lives upstairs, etc). Part P itself covers all domestic work and requires that the work be done in a safe manner, working to BS7671 is the de-facto way to meet this, but it does not preclude others (for example I know of someone who wanted to install something not permissable under BS7671, so he did it to the German national standard instead, and certainly at the time it would have been difficult for anyone to say that a standard from another EU nation was a problem, although I do understand that he was asked to translate the certification into english!)

Separate from this, is that Part P makes certain works notifiable, anything involving a new cirucit, replacement consumer unit, or extra points in a bathroom is notifiable, it did at one stage make extra points in a Kitchen notificable, and for some reason the amendment to take this out only applied to England, so that is still notfiable in Wales, also note that Part P never affected Scotland at all, its different in the three countries of the UK mainland!

As to what certification you should have, you should have a certficiate based on the ones in BS7671 thats relevant to the works done, either a minor electrical works certificate (MWC) or electrical installation certificate (EIC), the EIC will also include a schedule of inspections and and a shedule of cirucits. The MWC would be just a single page docment.

If the work is notficiable, you should also have a building regs completetion certificate, as others have said, depending on how the work was notified will affect who its come from, directly notified work would result in one from the lcoal authority, while being notified by through a certification scheme by the electrician would result in one from that organisation (NICIEIC, NAPIT, ELECSA, STROMA, ETC

You'll probably find that while the electrical work for your project is probably not in its own right notifiable, that because the project as a whole is notfiable that the electrical work is expected to be covered under that building notice

Sorry if thats too indepth, not t sure I can write a TL:DR summary!
 
Thanks guys. No boiler install here. I'm going to get the council to check the RSJ install and because I'm converting a window to a patio door they will check that - the builder isn't fensa approved. There will a fair bit of electrical work. New lights, sockets and possibly a new circuit as my double oven and induction hob may need it.

Are you appointing a structural engineer to assess the wall removal + design the beam oyourself, or will the contractor use someone they know themselves? Either way, the calc and spec needs to go to Building Control for approval prior to any work. They may or may not come to inspect it when installed.
 
@the_r_sole will probably explain better the differences between them and/or what you'd require for the work. In terms of what conveyancers will look for, things like electrical or boiler installs usually have a "compliance certificate" because the installations are carried out by a competent person e.g NICEIC contractor or gas safe registered engineer who notifies the Local Authority of the installation. The LA don't actually issue the certificate.

Building works can be signed off by either the LA building control or third party building control companies and so you'll have a building regulations approval and a completion certificate once the work is finished.

sorry missed the alert as been on holiday with a smashed phone! (other people were there also)
will try to respond in the next few days if still needed
 
Thanks guys. Adam sorry most of that went over my head. I’m having new lighting, more sockets and because of the induction hob we need a dedicated circuit. When you say notify do you mean we need to notify the council?

Sam we’ve had a structural surveyor do the calcs and our Builder will be following those. I’ll be submitting the calcs to the council before work begins.
 
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