Parking of commercialvehicles on residentialroads

Over Clocker

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Hi guys,

We live in a fairly quiet road, which is within a conservation area in Surrey.

Someone a few houses away has recently moved intothe area, and owns a low loader recovery vehicle. Parking where we live is limited so that is the first problem.

Sometimes, he parks his lorry up for the weekend leaving whatever wreck he has rescued on it. not so bad if it's car, but not very nice if it's a burnt out van etc!!

However, now, he's started putting cars upfor sale on the street also. So at the moment he has 2 low loaders parked up and 3 or 4 cars for sale on the street.

We live in such a nice area that this is a real shame.

Is all this allowed or are there any regulations about such things??

Cheers,

Mal
 
I wouldn't have the foggiest and I doubt many people would, if there's no parking permits ect, then I would assume your aloud to park what ever you want as long as it's not blocking anything.

Best bet is to phone the council, if they can't do anything, then the only other thing is to lobby ayour mp.
 
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Talk to your council about residental parking, normally you will only be allocated 1 or 2 parking spaces, so if he is using a lot more than that you can put a complaint in, but as I said you will have to check with the council first.

KaHn
 
Id go with the selling cars on the street thing first. Surely you have to be licenced as a trader to sell cars as a commercial thing, which he is doing as it not just the odd one by what you are saying. Selling cars 3 or 4 at a time is a business and he has to pay tax and all sorts of other things... is he i wonder?

Get onto the council and make a complaint and see what happens.
 
Over Clocker said:
Hi guys,

We live in a fairly quiet road, which is within a conservation area in Surrey.

Someone a few houses away has recently moved intothe area, and owns a low loader recovery vehicle. Parking where we live is limited so that is the first problem.

Sometimes, he parks his lorry up for the weekend leaving whatever wreck he has rescued on it. not so bad if it's car, but not very nice if it's a burnt out van etc!!

However, now, he's started putting cars upfor sale on the street also. So at the moment he has 2 low loaders parked up and 3 or 4 cars for sale on the street.

We live in such a nice area that this is a real shame.

Is all this allowed or are there any regulations about such things??

Cheers,

Mal
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Our old neighbour he started buing and selling cars ont he street, it became a real pain especially when he had 6-7 cars parked all over. Also many didnt have tax. So the mother called the authorities. It turned out he shouldnt have been selling the cars on the street so he got a large fine for that, then a tax bill from the inland revenue as he hadnt been declaring his earnings, this was as well as the tax fine for having untaxed cars.

If you call your local council they will be able to advise you on what you need to do/should do and your rights.
 
Over Clocker said:
he's started putting cars upfor sale on the street also.
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That is not actually allowed iirc. I think there is a law to stop people from doing this. Even putting a sticker inside your car and then parking it up with a view for selling it is not allowed.
 
Check out the land registry, download a copy of his deeds and check if he is allowed to run a business from the address. If he can't, report him to your council.
 
KaHn said:
Talk to your council about residental parking, normally you will only be allocated 1 or 2 parking spaces, so if he is using a lot more than that you can put a complaint in, but as I said you will have to check with the council first.

KaHn
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This is only the case for off-street parking where the landowner can allocate specific spaces. It is called the "public highway" for a reason and as long as the vehicles are displaying a valid tax disc (VEL) and are otherwise legally parked and not obstructing then he can park as many cars and light vans as he wants to. (HGV have different regulations but I suspect that these will not apply in this case unless it is a very large truck).

If the vehicles are untaxed then make a note of their make, model, colour and registration numbers and report them on the DVLA hotline on 08000 325 202. Please do not report them to the Police - they have very limited powers unless the vehicles are obstructing the highway or footpath and get too many 999 calls from irate peple saying "someone has parked in MY space" - there is no such thing on the public highway and police can't remove vehicles from private land unless they have been stolen.


Having said all that, there are 2 avenues which you need to explore.

Check with the council about the regulations that apply to the conservation area in which you live. It is possible that there are bylaws against the parking of commercial vehicles overnight.

Gather evidence regarding his trading (a few photos showing the vehicles for sale with his phone number or address in the windows will do nicely). Do this over a period of a couple of weeks so you can demonstrate that this is not just a "one off" but that it is part of his business and then present this evidence to the council.
 
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I have seen cases of local concil allocating street parking to houses, these were marked on the ground but as I said I am not totally sure when powers they would have if anything happened.

KaHn
 
Contact the council selling cars on the street is definately illegal, also check every car for a valid tax disk if they are on the public highway they have to be taxed if not report them all to the DVLA and get them town away and crushed.

You don't say if you've approached the guy and asked him nicely to stop what he is doing? Before taking any of the actions recomended in my or any other post the first point of call should be a polite request to stop. Remember you will have to live with the guy just down the street afer you've grassed him up.
 
KaHn said:
I have seen cases of local concil allocating street parking to houses, these were marked on the ground but as I said I am not totally sure when powers they would have if anything happened.

KaHn
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This does happen rarely, it is usually where there is a resident's parking permit scheme or where the council owns a strip of land adjacent to and contiguous with the highway proper. In any event if this were the case I suspect that Over Clocker would have told us so. In the absence of any markings and signage to the contrary the normal parking regulations would apply.
 
Some garages and other businesses which sell cars at times park them for long periods on the road. This can be a nuisance to local residents. Section 3 makes it an offence for a person to park motor vehicles on a road or roads, where the vehicles are parked merely in order to be sold. There must be two or more vehicles within 500 metres of each other for the offence to be committed.
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From the Explanatory Notes to Clean Neighbourhoods and Environment Act 2005
 
Anyone tried talking to him yet? He might just not realise how inconsiderate hes being, and might see it your way.
 
Yep I know my neighbour and also the guy's neighbour has spoken to him in the past.

Thanks for all your tips guys.

I've emailed the council, without giving any info on who it is etc, but to ask for their advice.

Cheers,

Mal
 
It should say so in the deeds for the property. Most domestic residences have limits on the size of vehicle that can be parked. If he's selling cars then he would need council permission to allow the commercial use. If he had applied, all his neighbours would have received notice from the council to allow for objections.
 
selling cars on the street is illegal

re commercial vehicles, this depends on thecovenants covering the properties afaik

on our street one "small van" is allowed, small being escort van sort of size

transits,pick ups, caravans, mobile homes etc are banned
 
pok125 said:
Anyone tried talking to him yet? He might just not realise how inconsiderate hes being, and might see it your way.
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Unless he's a complete moron I'd be pretty sure he could see the limited amount of parking and just how much of it he is taking up.

It can be a real PITA, we were put off several quite nice houses because of this exact problem.
 
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