Paypal scam, am i likely to loose money?

dovey

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Sold an old world of warcraft account via paypal, while later and money is being held for a reverse transfer. Are paypal likely to reverse the funds?

Really will take the peee if they do as it means i have to arse around with ringing blizzard and listing cd keys etc and then hope the accounts in a reasonable state.
 
yep. if you cant access your account right now, phone up blizzard, say someone has breached your account and you dont know how as you havent given any details out.

give them your details and they will restore your account.

when selling accounts you should ALWAYS give the details last!
 
Too late already lost the wow account but can sort that out quite easily. More bothered about the cash tbh as i'm in need for the car insurance.
 
It's gone. I'm afraid Paypal are well known for this type of thing.

Best get on the phone to Blizzard.
 
dovey said:
Sold an old world of warcraft account via paypal, while later and money is being held for a reverse transfer. Are paypal likely to reverse the funds?

Really will take the peee if they do as it means i have to arse around with ringing blizzard and listing cd keys etc and then hope the accounts in a reasonable state.
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Yup. The guy probably knew this as well. I've had something similar happen and PayPal give a lame excuse.

Good thing about WoW I heard was you can get the character back quite easily. Next time you do such a transfer have it sent through Western Union or a verified PayPal account and only give the account AFTER money has been transfered fully from PayPal to your bank.
 
sold a graphics card to an unverified buyer, somewhere in Scotland.

Ended up losing the card, and £300 >:(

I had his address, but I never did anything about it.

I'm very very careful about who I sell to now on aution sites etc, and absolutely deteste PayPal with a passion, they are the worst financial institution I have ever dealt with. But as consumers our hands are tied with using eBay, since eBay owns PayPal, it favours them making any other payment options seem highly unsafe (more so than PayPal? hmmm). On the flipside, I feel very confidant buying via PayPal on ebay, because PayPal are naturally on the side of the buyer in a dispute situation, since it's the easier side to reverse any transaction from: problem with item? refund, item not recieved? refund, buyer account hacked, fraudster has item? refund, I'm familiar with that last instance unfortuantely.

What got me was my account went to negative £300, then a fileplanet subscription of £1.50 or something stupidly small, got £300 piggybacked on it, ****ing direct debit.
 
Cyberstrike2027 said:
sold a graphics card to an unverified buyer, somewhere in Scotland.

Ended up losing the card, and £300 >:(

I had his address, but I never did anything about it.

I'm very very careful about who I sell to now on aution sites etc, and absolutely deteste PayPal with a passion, they are the worst financial institution I have ever dealt with. But as consumers our hands are tied with using eBay, since eBay owns PayPal, it favours them making any other payment options seem highly unsafe (more so than PayPal? hmmm). On the flipside, I feel very confidant buying via PayPal on ebay, because PayPal are naturally on the side of the buyer in a dispute situation, since it's the easier side to reverse any transaction from: problem with item? refund, item not recieved? refund, buyer account hacked, fraudster has item? refund, I'm familiar with that last instance unfortuantely.

What got me was my account went to negative £300, then a fileplanet subscription of £1.50 or something stupidly small, got £300 piggybacked on it, ****ing direct debit.
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You sent an item to an unverified address and then moan that Paypal are at fault.
Stick to the rules/t&c's and then you don't get stung - all rather easy.

Why did you decide that sending to an unverified address was a good idea?
 
jonshaw_uk said:
paypal always side with the payment sender. they are making it all to easy for scammers to get peoples money
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No they don't - they look at each case individually.

If the person selling the item can prove that he sent the item via a recordable delivery service then usually Paypal will side with the seller.

If the seller sends to an unconfirmed address then the seller usually loses out come a dispute.

All these people moaning about Paypal (and they do make a rather small percentage conpared to the many hundreds of thousands of transactions made through them on a regular basis) just don't bother reading through the terms & conditions.
 
Cyberstrike2027 said:
What got me was my account went to negative £300, then a fileplanet subscription of £1.50 or something stupidly small, got £300 piggybacked on it, ****ing direct debit.
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Yeah...I recently signed up to a direct debit with PayPal so I could tranfer funds from my bank to my PayPal account.
To cut a long story short some idiot paid me £350 and wanted me to send the good to an unverified address. Thing is, she paid £60 over the odds and I very nearly went along with it.....Decided to refund £300, keep £50 as a deposit, and she is going to re-confirm her address and send me the £300 back.

That's the plan anyway!
 
Oh well looks like i'll loose out on this one as it was electronic transfer of information and i doubt they will accept an email as proof. The guy has brought up an unauthorized transaction dispute which it quite obviously isn't (not a goods not delivered etc), i hope they pick up on that as its most likely not the first time hes done it!

Hopefully ill be able to get the account back and not loose out too much, speshily comapred to a £300 quid g card!
 
Should email saying if he wants to play it that way you're going to report him to the police for hacking your account :)
 
stoofa said:
No they don't - they look at each case individually.

If the person selling the item can prove that he sent the item via a recordable delivery service then usually Paypal will side with the seller.

If the seller sends to an unconfirmed address then the seller usually loses out come a dispute.

All these people moaning about Paypal (and they do make a rather small percentage conpared to the many hundreds of thousands of transactions made through them on a regular basis) just don't bother reading through the terms & conditions.
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LOL I read through that and thought this guy has no idea about Paypal.. then I looked to the left and noticed who posted it so that explained everything :D

Paypal are scum. They limited my account and froze my the £190 in there just because I didn't have a credit card registered with them and I had to add one for "security reasons". Thing is, I don't have a credit card and I don't want one. So I called them and told them that but all they said was tough, you have to add a credit card and I would have to wait 180 days to get the money out of my account if I didn't "co-operate"! I threatened them with court action and they agreed to do a bank transfer. My account remains suspended.
 
why not add a debit card? People seem to think that just because they say credit it means you cant use a debit?? Iv got a credit card but its never been activated, whenever soemthing says credit i whack in the old VISA debit and it works. Theres no way as far as i know for a company to know if card number being entered is a debit or credit card as far as i know.
 
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