PC Gamers - Is the new Windows 10 store worse than GFWL?

bfar · 8 Apr 2016 at 20:21

We've now had two or three AAA games on MS's new store front, and the results are not pretty.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-what-went-wrong-with-quantum-break-pc

If anything this looks worse than GFWL. It's actually laughable. I bet the likes of Valve can't believe how fast MS have shot off their own two feet, they must be grining from ear to ear!

Aside from Directx why do MS consistently fail to execute on the PC gaming front? Can they ever again be taken seriously by the PC gaming community? Will this damage the perception of DX12?

d_brennen · 8 Apr 2016 at 20:30

Microsoft fail to get anything online right. Their own websites must have a million or so dead links.

The only time I ever had a problem with GFWL was when trying to use it

Thankfully so clever and helpful criminals figured out ways to remove GFWL malware

MS store - IKD. Not interested in paying higher than bricks and mortar prices for an online digital distribution service. At all.

Martini1991 · 8 Apr 2016 at 21:15

It's a wreck.

llamadal · 8 Apr 2016 at 21:18

It's new, give it time.

d_brennen · 8 Apr 2016 at 21:31

llamadal said:
It's new, give it time.

With Microsoft's clout, they needed to hit the ground running. The whole point of Windows 10 and Windows Phone is to funnel people into the store. Looks like the people in charge of the store project didn't get the memo!

Mark A · 8 Apr 2016 at 21:33

Prices are a joke. I was hoping to play Quantum break, but they can get stuffed at that price.

neoboy · 8 Apr 2016 at 21:50

Microsoft appears to be the most successful company that can't seem to implement anything right.

Cromulent · 8 Apr 2016 at 21:56

I've never even opened the Windows store on purpose (I have accidentally opened it a couple of times though). Nothing would make me buy anything from it. I just don't see the point. There isn't really anything I am interested in and I certainly wouldn't buy any games from it.

~>Dg<~ · 8 Apr 2016 at 23:03

llamadal said:
It's new, give it time.

its exact same thing as before they just renamed it

TheVoice · 8 Apr 2016 at 23:53

llamadal said:
It's new, give it time.

Why? From a PC gaming perspective at least, there's no reason to give it any time at all. The competitors all have better platforms available right now.

A big launch like Quantum Break would've pushed the Windows Store into the limelight if done right, but both MS and Remedy have completely botched it. Instead, the game is seemingly going to flop on PC and MS' barely half-hearted attempt at providing a platform for PC gaming will go with it.

QB was obviously meant to sell Xbox Ones, so I'm not even really sure why they ever bothered announcing a PC release.

eldergeek · 9 Apr 2016 at 03:35

TheVoice said:
Why? From a PC gaming perspective at least, there's no reason to give it any time at all. The competitors all have better platforms available right now.

A big launch like Quantum Break would've pushed the Windows Store into the limelight if done right, but both MS and Remedy have completely botched it. Instead, the game is seemingly going to flop on PC and MS' barely half-hearted attempt at providing a platform for PC gaming will go with it.

QB was obviously meant to sell Xbox Ones, so I'm not even really sure why they ever bothered announcing a PC release.

Yeah, because steam was perfect out the gate, right? Oh that's right! Origin too. that was so good, nobody had a problem with their auditing hardware specs. And Uplay! Everyone loves uPlay right now. And let's not forget all those ham fisted, always on requirements that EA and Ubisoft love to work into their yearly franchises.

Personally, I would like to err on the side of the benefit of the doubt, and give Microsoft feedback on what doesn't work; because as opposed to GFWL, they at least appear to be listening this time.

Paul_cz · 9 Apr 2016 at 06:41

eldergeek said:
Yeah, because steam was perfect out the gate, right? Oh that's right! Origin too. that was so good, nobody had a problem with their auditing hardware specs. And Uplay! Everyone loves uPlay right now. And let's not forget all those ham fisted, always on requirements that EA and Ubisoft love to work into their yearly franchises.

Personally, I would like to err on the side of the benefit of the doubt, and give Microsoft feedback on what doesn't work; because as opposed to GFWL, they at least appear to be listening this time.

I hate this "argument" about Steam not being perfect on release.

Steam released in 2004 and it was the FIRST EVER platform of its kind made by a small videogame making company. Yes, beginnings were a bit rocky. Sure.

But today it is 2016 and we are talking about one of the biggest richest companies in the world that has had more than a decade to see how things should be done. And yet they keep constantly frakking things up, in the most bizzare ways imaginable. It should not take a genius nor customer feedback to know that games should not be locked down, games should not constantly stutter, games should not cost insane prices, games should not delete saves, games should not be a nightmare to install...

yet MS does all that anyway.

chroniclard · 9 Apr 2016 at 06:49

The store itself looks fine. Is it just not let down by a poorly made game(s) at a silly price?

SkeeterUK · 9 Apr 2016 at 06:58

Microsoft should split into a pc group and a xbox group to keep things right. Right now they are xbox first pc second.

If microsoft was serious about dx12 and pc gaming they really should split and make a pc only division to cater to just us.

atpbx · 9 Apr 2016 at 07:38

Let it die, don't support it it's a hideously bad idea to let Microsoft gain any traction with it.

Wulfster · 9 Apr 2016 at 08:53

Microsoft is trying to emulate Apple's closed system success ££. Needs to die a horrible death, it's as anti PC as you can get.

Anyone else think that Phil Spencer looks really shady? Nobody smiles that much that isn't stabbing you in the back.

nashathedog · 9 Apr 2016 at 08:58

d_brennen said:
Microsoft fail to get anything online right. Their own websites must have a million or so dead links.

+1

I went on the Microsoft site to get info on how to change where the Windows 10 store puts games on my PC, I later found another thread in which someone was asking the same thing. Both threads had replies from 2 different Microsoft engineer representatives and both gave fairly complicated wrong answers telling us we would need to do several things including make changes in the registry. Then I came on here and someone (I forget who, sorry) told me it was very simple and all I needed to do was go into settings/storage and change which drive apps are installed.
I then went back to the thread on Microsoft site and asked about this and was thanked by there rep for correcting him and explaining how to do it ???

This was a Microsoft engineer who's job includes helping people with OS problems on there own site, WTF!

d_brennen · 9 Apr 2016 at 09:03

nashathedog said:
+1

I went on the Microsoft site to get info on how to change where the Windows 10 store puts games on my PC, I later found another thread in which someone was asking the same thing. Both threads had replies from 2 different Microsoft engineer representatives and both gave fairly complicated wrong answers telling us we would need to do several things including make changes in the registry. Then I came on here and someone (I forget who, sorry) told me it was very simple and all I needed to do was go into settings/storage and change which drive apps are installed.
I then went back to the thread on Microsoft site and asked about this and was thanked by there rep for correcting him and explaining how to do it ???

This was a Microsoft engineer who's job includes helping people with OS problems on there own site, WTF!

It's been a while since I've even bothered to look on MS forums. I could be wrong but I think they are just community do-gooders on there flashing their dubious MS qualifications. Usually from India and lack reading comprehension, too

Nate75 · 9 Apr 2016 at 09:24

Paul_cz said:
I hate this "argument" about Steam not being perfect on release.

Steam released in 2004 and it was the FIRST EVER platform of its kind made by a small videogame making company. Yes, beginnings were a bit rocky. Sure.

But today it is 2016 and we are talking about one of the biggest richest companies in the world that has had more than a decade to see how things should be done. And yet they keep constantly frakking things up, in the most bizzare ways imaginable. It should not take a genius nor customer feedback to know that games should not be locked down, games should not constantly stutter, games should not cost insane prices, games should not delete saves, games should not be a nightmare to install...

yet MS does all that anyway.

Yup agreed.

Rroff · 9 Apr 2016 at 09:30

Yup Paul has nailed it. MS seems to be in some really bizzare place right now - they have the possibility to do something really good with Windows 10 and the store but completely blowing it with some kind of weird wannabe hipster like development direction that makes no sense at all - none the less they don't seem to understand that a significant numbers of their userbase don't want an apple like eco system and if they did would already be using that as their main OS instead of Windows.

But then you get a few features in there that are really good but don't fit in with the pattern of the rest at all i.e. user mode bash integration.