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People wanting the Pixel 4?

Discussion in 'Mobile Phones & Tablets' started by Cromulent, Jun 7, 2019.

  1. V_R

    Sgarrista

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    So I see....

    https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-4-xl-5g-fake/
     
  2. _Jimlad_

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    This is good! I am pretty much in at this stage. Got some money set aside. My daughter stuck the deepest 2" scratch that is almost a crack in my pixel3XL with my OCD that is forcing my hand :D
     
  3. Funky-Melon

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    Why are Google Pixel phones always so far behind the rest?

    Genuine question, every model they've released has been 1-2 years behind any other manufacturer, you'd think with them having the money and resources they have, they'd be right at the top with everyone else struggling to keep up, yet they aren't - Why does anybody buy these phones? Is it just for fast, clean unmodified Android?
     
  4. mohawk

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    how are they 1-2 years behind?
     
  5. Funky-Melon

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    - Smaller battery
    - 2 cameras when everyone else is on 3 as a minimum, or 4
    - 6GB of RAM, most flagships are on 8GB+
    - Subjective I know, but blatant copy of the iPhone's hideous fidget spinner camera design
    - No in screen finger print sensor, not even one on the back
    - No doubt will be priced very similar to those that do have the above and more features...

    All of their previous releases have been behind the current gen too.

    Maybe some are happy with it, I just feel for a multi billion dollar company with infinite resources, they could churn out something significantly better.
     
  6. Cleisthenes

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    Of course they could make a better phone, but there would the financial sense be for them to do that?
     
  7. Funky-Melon

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    Better sales?

    So far, other than an incremental SoC upgrade, it offers nothing over my Note 8.....From 2 years ago.

    I don't see why you wouldn't make it the best you possibly can? Why spend millions to make something that's pretty much trumped by everything else already on the market?
     
  8. _Jimlad_

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    battery size is not fully released yet. Also you have no idea how that stacks up with the stock OS on every day use.
    is 8GB needed on stock android with no crappy overlays and skins ?
    How do you know Apple did not copy Google with the fidget spinner camera ? the phones are 1 month apart. Or are you saying Google knocked that design up last week ?
    Google have proved time and time again it's not about how many cameras you add. You can't knock them on that the Pixel2 is still one of the best camera phone around 2 years on.
    Not sure why no finger print sensor. i presume it's not needed with the new tech coming i would appreciate one

    If you just go byy the spec sheet when you want a new phone then go get a Rog2 phone and see where that is in 12 months updates wise....

    i would also wait for the release and reviews before knocking it.
     
  9. Funky-Melon

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    Agree with all your points, I WANT to buy one and have a pure Google phone but every time they release a new model, I look at the hardware and what they're asking for it and it's such crap value for money compared to what is out there for the same price.

    It (so far anyway) seems like another poor effort from a small team of people, we'll see.
     
  10. _Jimlad_

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    I am not really sure what the issues are hardware wise? base it on the P3 for example how is the spec any different from another flagship released in that time ? the only one really is the RAM at the time 6gb was popular and google went with 4gb. Not sure on battery stats as its all relative to what is running and usage. I know my P3 lasts longer than my wifes galaxy S9 for example. I also know my work iphone8 has much better 'idle' or standby depletion time then any android phone i have used.
     
  11. Fairly sure the answer is no

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    yes i agree i'd like more, but i also understand there are situations when it's not required. do you know what iphone have? as the point of your post is how pixels are 1/2 years behind. tell us what iphone currently has, and then what it had 1/2 years ago so we can see that you're correct with pixels being 1/2 years ago spec.


    this isn't subjective. this is down right false. you can't make a false claim, hide it behind you "subjective i know" comment and get away with it.

    this sucks if true, but again, remind us how this is 1/2 years behind other tech.

    now this, finally, is actually subjective. why can pixels do with 2 cameras what it takes other phones 3/4 cameras to do.
     
  12. Broken Hope

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    I don’t get how people are so obsessed with fingerprint readers, security is so much more seamless with face recognition, I’d never go back.
     
  13. Funky-Melon

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    I feel exactly the same about Apple, don't get me started on them :D



    How? They're both identical, they both look crap. Same with the P3 which had an identical notch to the iPhone X. There are hundreds of ways they could have done their camera design to make it look different.


    Not 2 years behind then, no, just a lazy, can't be bothered attitude. Most have built in under the screen sensors now, Google couldn't do that?


    You'll never be able to do with 2 lenses, what you can with 3 :)
     
  14. Fairly sure the answer is no

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    i sincerely hope they don't do this.

    finding a finger print reader on the back is much easier than on the front. i can hold my 2xl in my pocket and unlock it before it's out and is then ready to be used. every other method will be locked still until it's in front of my face and then require unlocking. no matter how fast, it'll never be faster than a pocket unlock.

    i also can use one hand with it on the back. on the front requires 2 hands.
     
  15. Fairly sure the answer is no

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    because you said they copied apple.
     
  16. Funky-Melon

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    Lol, maybe not directly but it's near enough identical, why they couldn't do something different I don't know

    Either way, we'll see next month what comes of it. Interested to see what they charge for it.
     
  17. Pigeon_Killer

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    The specs do seem a bit lacklustre but this phone will be judged on its camera again. Get that right and no one will care about RAM, CPU or 5G regardless of price.
     
  18. Rimsy

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  19. TheOracle

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    Annoying they made a big song and dance about google duplex last year and then nothing

    wonder what they'll show us this year
     
  20. Fairly sure the answer is no

    Sgarrista

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    Maybe some cool features like an Google assistant phone answering service that doesn't come to the UK even a year later. Or offers like 6 months of youtube premium, but not to existing customers.