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I've been really tempted by the OP1 8k, particularly the purple one that's just come out!

How is it going back to having a wire again? Using a bungee?

Really enjoying it, especially not having to worry about charging before a session etc. I've read stories about the purple being a bit creaky however i've had no issues with my white one. Software is pretty basic but does the job too, much better than anything Razer.

I've only just got a bungee but before even without it felt fine. Hardly any snagging.

Don't think i'll be going back to wireless again for a while!
 
The input station :)

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Should be very very high for £200 lol. Where's the rest of it?

Edit. On a serious note, I've read a bit about it and it does sound good but holes are a no. I would have actually bought that death adder off you but I didn't notice it until it was already sold. It would be nice to have a secondary wireless mouse that isn't so bulky.
 
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In terms of feel the holes don't really affect the feel at all as the palm rarely even touches them even with palm grip as pinky and thumb grip the sides.

I've put the grip takpes on the sides for now as may as well use them for a bit. Also found a solution to remove any dust as time goes on lol

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46 grams with the grip tape installed. Nice, that's 10g lower than the Razer which was already very light.
 
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What's the weight on it? @mrk

Does it feel weird at all to use with the cut outs?

I've never tried/opted for a mouse with holes/cutouts, right now I'm using either the OP1 8K / Vaxee XE-S but I've always been tempted by some of Finalmouse's offering or the WL Mouse clones that have come out recently too.
 
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I do have another skeleton mouse, the Endorfy LIV Plus above which ass some high specs too but is all plastic and has holed sides which are uncomfortable, so solid sides are important which the F01 has and is as comfy as a regular mouse to use. how it look with my grip:

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As for weight, using the included dot skates and no grip tape installed:

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The Pulsar software is good too:
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I opened up the F01 out of curiosity, really easy just 2 screws, kinda neat in both design and cool factor:

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Now taken the grip tape off as the feel of cold magnesium is kind of nicer :o
 
Well, it seems extremely unlikely that I'm going to have to worry about upgrading my GPU, so I think I'm going to look at getting a lighter mouse next.
Ideally I'd like to be able to get it from somewhere where its very easy to return them if I don't get on with it because I can't imagine spending 100 or more on a mouse and then then just finding it really uncomfortable
 
Amazon it is then, what was the current mouse? The Death Adder V3 HyperSpeed would be my only choice if sticking to under £100, the coating is amazing, it's 55g weight which is still barely nothing and it has great performance, just install the Synapse software to configure the mouse then uninstall it as the software is pants and runs BG services even when not running.
 
At the moment it's a razer Naga something wireless. I got it because I like the buttons on the side but I don't use them for a lot of games so then it's too bulky and heavy*
I don't have a set budget per se. I just have no idea about mice really. I've always just got them based on how they looked I guess.

The razer suggestion sounds welcome because I have that dongle that connects my mouse and keyboard at the same time. Plus I already have the software too obv, although I'm guessing that the mouse might perhaps have a higher spec dongle.

The reason I leave the software installed is because sometimes I might change the bindings for the 12 side buttons.

Edit. It's always bulky and heavy, I mean for games where I don't use the side buttons it's usually because it's games that don't warrant it like FPS which it is too bulky then.
 
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Both the dongle and software will be the later revisions yeah, the dongle especially as it's dedicated to that mouse. The software is Synapse 4 which you can see on their site the list of supported devices. I think the V3 HyperSpeed would be the ideal choice, it's not super expensive, it is high sped and it does the job rather well. There are other mice from brands like Lamzu, Vaxee, Finalmouse, WLmouse etcd, all are very good and some have software that connects to the mouse via a web browser so nothing to install even, though you can't find all these alternatives via Amazon.
 
At the moment it's a razer Naga something wireless. I got it because I like the buttons on the side but I don't use them for a lot of games so then it's too bulky and heavy.
I don't have a set budget per se. I just have no idea about mice really. I've always just got them based on how they looked I guess.

The razer suggestion sounds welcome because I have that dongle that connects my mouse and keyboard at the same time. Plus I already have the software too obv, although I'm guessing that the mouse might perhaps have a higher spec dongle.

The reason I leave the software installed is because sometimes I might change the bindings for the 12 side buttons.
Boardzy is a great resource on YouTube for mice but it can be a bit of a rabbit hole once you start looking. If you can find a shape that you like then that trumps weight for me, particulary if the mouse is well balanced. Eloshapes is the site I use when I'm comparing mice I like: https://www.eloshapes.com/

For me I'd always go with shape>weight>features - and most mouse released now are going to support up to 4k polling.

The G Pro Superlight series from Logitech are good and also a 'safe' choice. A really safe shape that appeals to lots of different grip styles and hand sizes so that's one worth considering. You can get a Superlight 1 rather than 2 if you're not fussed by the additional few grams of weight.

I moved from a G Pro Superlight to a Vaxee XE-S - similar shape to a GPX but slightly flatter so works well for more of a claw grip that I use - but the balance is the best thing for me. If I balance the mouse on one finger (on the sensor) it doesn't tilt either way, compared to a lot of wireless mice where you've got a rear based battery so the weight is all there.

Two side buttons is also my preference and the Vaxee mice have them placed in a really suitable position for me.

I've been trying the OP1-8K (wired 8k polling mouse) recently and it's clicks feel sharper and the shape is nice - but the side buttons feel a little 'out of place' for me so I'm not as comfortable on it as I am on the Vaxee.

As dorky as it sounds, it's worth measuring your hand to get an idea of L x W and then having your phone / camera record your hand whilst you play a particulary intense game so you can see what grip position you take whilst playing and that'll give you the two pieces of info you need to kick things off.

Just wait till you start looking at mouse pads and you've spent 60 quid importing an Artisan from Japan...
 
Bear in mind anything above 2k polling is just extra CPU cycles which will be wasted. I did a metrics test recently, up to 7% CPU usage at 1000Hz which is normal, but that jumps to up to 11% at 2000Hz and you may or may not see a difference, though for the sake of a few % CPU time on one core, any game where you do super quick snap movements may benefit, it is 0.5ms vs 1ms after all of polling latency. Once you go above 2K though that's the point of diminishing returns, so don't fret about not having 4K or 8K. At 8K polling the CPU use jumps to an up to 17% which is unreasonably high.

I can't think of any game that benefits 8K polling but some competitive shooter players say they can tell the difference. Perhaps a monitor that's well over 240Hz is needed for that I don't know but I don't even play those games so 240Hz OLED and single player games does me fine at 1-2K lol.

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So yeah, button feel, shape and the wheel are my main checklist, if these items don't feel great then it's a no go as a main gaming or general mouse. If gaming then weight is important too. My last fav gaming mouse was the Endgame XM2we, amazing mouse which I gave away to my nephew when I got the V3 HyperSpeed.

As for mouse pads, I have had a bunch over the years from solid to fabric and really I found little in the way of advantages for gaming, so ended up settling on what was most comfortable under my arms and hands. With that in mind a thick fabric pad like those made by Titanwolf (as in my pics) work best I found. They are fabric so after a year or two do wear down, but given they cost like £17, I just buy a new one once a year and use the old one as shelf liner in the shed for my rattle cans and car cleaning stuff. Some say the glass mats or Artisan mats have better sensor tracking, yet the sensors have been capable of their rated tracking on shiny surfaces for years so having a different mouse surface isn't going to improve what's already excellent, so just like mice, go with what satisfies comfort. That's one rabbit hole I know there is zero need to go down lol.

You then have Razer, Corsair and others making their own brand big mouse surfaces that look and feel just like those by Titanwolf at 3x the price... Probably get made in the same China factory I swear.
 
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I forgot to say I've actually got the razer Naga V2 Pro which was a later one so I don't know if that makes a difference about the dongle. Also, I've just seen the price of it so apparently I don't mind spending quite a bit on a mouse, I guess I forgot what it cost.

Thanks for the above and beyond info both of you. I'm checking out the links and will watch the video after.
I've actually got a Titanwolf mouse mat, although I could do with a new one because I also paint my modelling stuff on it so it's a bit mucky.
I spent a fair bit on one from ID gaming because they did sizes I couldn't find anywhere else that almost covered my whole desk. Unfortunately it was white and I found that it got dirty very quickly where my arms were always resting on it, lesson learned.
 
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