Petrol Station Legalities.

[therealnerd2]

I love ocuk. Really good relevent comments here guys.

 

[Bobbler]

I love ocuk. Really good relevent comments here guys.

It was until alright someone decided they are in a bit of a mood.

 

[james.miller]

oh of course i have



its funny, some people seem to think they can work to their own set of rules when using a service provided to them which they are not entitled to in any way shape or form.

I used to have great fun with this rule and people on the forecourt when I worked in a fuel station.

Bottom line is that you are not supposed to use your phone on the forecourt and if there is an accident during fuelling whilst someone is on the phone then the PFS's insurance won't cover it and the fire warden can actually close you down. (I used to ask plenty of questions so this was all fed to me by our manager so I'm working on the assumption that its true)

So....whenever I had customers refusing to put their phones down despite being asked, I'd just cut off the fuel to the whole forecourt and let the customers fight it out between themselves. The guilty party soon tend to feel pretty silly.

Fortunately for them I don't work in a fuel station anymore.

Then you are a fool.

yes he is a fool. a fool for giving a damn about the staff and the rest of the public. what a fool.


the biggest problem with petrol stations (and this is an opinion oblivious, take note of the difference between opinion and fact) as that yes it really is such a high risk environment, but because its something people will do 1,2,3 times a week.....some people tend to forget the risks involved - they are...oblivious to it. Ehereas the people who work there, are reminded of it every single day. That can be a very frustrating problem to deal with and quite obviously its something some people don't give a damn about.

 

[Oblivious]

yes he is a fool. a fool for giving a damn about the staff and the rest of the public. what a fool.


the biggest problem with petrol stations (and this is an opinion oblivious, take note of the difference between opinion and fact) as that yes it really is such a high risk environment, but because its something people will do 1,2,3 times a week.....some peopel tend to forget the risks involved. whereas the people who work there, are reminded of it every single day. That can be a very frustrating problem to deal with.

Its a she actually.

There is no risk from using a mobile on a forecourt. Ill accept the distraction argument but no more.

 

[james.miller]

Its a she actually.

There is no risk from using a mobile on a forecourt. Ill accept the distraction argument but no more.

so again, tell me where ive said anything to the contrary or for the benefit of everybody else, please stop digging that hole. to clarify, if its needed, distraction itself is a HUGE risk. i dont know why about would find this hard to understand. for people filling up, we do everything possible to make sure they play by the rules.

and im sure she wont mind me making that mistake. not that that has anything to do with this thread

 

[Fantom]

sorry but just to add to the mix:

lit cigarettes do not ignite fuel (maybe in some strange circumstances of compressed fumes etc)

mobile phones do not ignite fuel...

sparks on the other hand...

I dont advise it but im pretty sure you could chuck a ringing phone and a lit fag into a barrel of petrol and be fine...

Edit: *Flame proof jacket* oh wait I dont need it

 

[Lopéz]

Power crazy attendant. There is no law. Its possible that you could have a caused a bit of jam depends on the petrol station layout, but no.. no law.

It's not the attendant being "power crazy", he's just doing his job. If a barman works in a pub that has a "No sportswear" policy, is he power crazy for not serving people in sportswear, or asking them to leave? He's not the one who makes the rules, his employer is.

I think it's silly that I have to say "Thank you for your call" instead of "Thanks for your call" but that's company policy and if I don't obey them disciplinary measures will eventually be taken against me.

 

[Jet]

In response to the OP, yes it is illegal. But it's illegal to leave your car anywhere unattanded with the ignition running, nevermind at a petrol station.

 

[Sonea Fifer]

Seeing the lotus esprit thread made me remember something that happened the other day.

Was sitting in a petrol station in portsmouth, waiting for my sister to pay. When this lovely Esprit V8 turned up, burbling away, guy gets out so i think ooh he is going to get some form of food, but no he walks round to the pump whilst the lotus burbles away quietly, well quite loud. The guy then precedes to fill up, fills up 20quid goes in chucks it down and then drives off in quite a rush.

Now obviously you have the signs saying turn off ignition when pumping. But is there any legal things about this as I once thought you had to by law turn off your engine. As although generally safe could be a safety hazard.

Was quite funny as i then pulled out and saw him stuck at the traffic lights by fratton park.

Turbo timer perhaps?

Had one set up on my GTI-R - left a few non-petrol head peeps wondering

 

[dirtydog]

I did justify my attitude. You have overwhelmed threads with your expert opinion many a time on numerous occasions in the past.

Your posts in this thread have me sitting here in disbelief at what I'm reading.

 

[Baron_Samedi]

I think some people leave turbo motors running to avoid them having to worry about damage to the turbo bearings on shutting the engine off....

 

[Luke]

From my two ventures into america, it seems it is far more common over there to see cars being filled with the engine running.

 

[Overlag]

In your opinion yes. However the petrol station is believe it or not interested in safety of the rest of its customers despite however selfish or ignorant others wish to be.
Its there to stop distractions and end up with spills or overfilling of your tank and leaving it for someone else to deal with or slip on in the case of diesel
Just because you don't agree with the rule doesn't mean that you get to ignore it.

mobile phones DO NOT cause issues at petrol stations.

but you know what does? static....and the static shocks my work trousers give off i'm surprised there ain't weekly explosions at tesco garages LOL

 

[Mr_Sukebe]

Whilst at uni, I did a year in a petrol station garage for a supermarket. We were under quite strict rules to ensure that nobody smoked on the forecourt.
The ones I was most amused by were the people who'd light up in the car. I used to have to go out to them on knock on their windows. The classic line being:
"but the windows closed", the answer of course being
"yes, we appreciate that sir. However your car is not airtight. Please extinguish your cigarette...".

 

[Luke]

I think we need to focus less on the risk of explosion caused by the use of the phone, and take the point on board that was made above a couple of times - that it is a distraction which increases the risk of spillage in what is essentially the transfer of a volatile liquid.
Petrol is obviously highly flammable and the vapour is explosive. People get complacent of the risks involved, but it is a potentially dangerous process. Anything that can be done to minimise any risks taken whilst filling up have to be for the benefit for everyone.

Is anyone here so important that they cannot interrupt a phone conversation for the time it takes to fill up? I highly doubt it. The same goes for smoking.

Regardless of the real or imagined risks, it is a rule posted clearly on all forecourts. Is it that hard to obey?

 

[adapt]

Mobile rule is stupid.

I agree, I was with my mrs when we just had a big blow out in the smart roadster. No spare so we were stuck. Anyway not knowing the road and on the phone to smart assistance we needed the name, a esso garage across the road. Aware that we shouldnt be on the phone got as far as the door and this big grizzly woman who worked their came storming up giving us a load of stick. Would she actually listen to us, no way!

 

[Luke]

Why should the rulkes be relaxed for you because just you didn't have the common sense to find out where you were before calling for recovery/assistance?

 

[adapt]

Errr, I didnt realise you knew the road and everything. Shall I set the setting a little further.

It was bitterly cold at 11:15 in the evening. In the country, we knew a rough bearing but the assistance demanded we gave an exact place. The pumps were a good distance from the shop and the drive in/out. If we were stood right next to the pump you can say I have no common sence but due to being a little shaken and the assistance company being hard work I think that comment is a little unfair.

 

[PMKeates]

The ones I was most amused by were the people who'd light up in the car. I used to have to go out to them on knock on their windows. The classic line being:
"but the windows closed", the answer of course being
"yes, we appreciate that sir. However your car is not airtight. Please extinguish your cigarette...".

I really can't see a problem with smoking inside ones car. The world isn't airtight, and I can happily smoke away just off the forecourt with surely a virtually identical potential hazard?

 

[dirtydog]

Errr, I didnt realise you knew the road and everything. Shall I set the setting a little further.

It was bitterly cold at 11:15 in the evening. In the country, we knew a rough bearing but the assistance demanded we gave an exact place. The pumps were a good distance from the shop and the drive in/out. If we were stood right next to the pump you can say I have no common sence but due to being a little shaken and the assistance company being hard work I think that comment is a little unfair.

If you had common sense you'd have known that it is forbidden to use a mobile at a petrol station and had the respect for the petrol station owner/attendant to adhere to that rule. Instead of arrogantly assuming the rules didn't apply to you and then getting angry when you learned that they do.