Sorry, but the fact that it was cold has no bearing on things at all. I can accept that you may have been shaken up and hadn't realised that the recovery people might actually want to know where you were before setting off to get you, but you seem to think the person in the shop was out of order. Can't say I agree with you on that one.adapt said:
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You’re entitled to your opinion but I wouldn’t say I was arrogant. You’re coming to a conclusion that I assumed they didn’t apply to me. I think next to the pumps I can understand but a good distance away is hardly the same. I see staff in my local Shell texting at the till all the time. Does the same apply to their arrogance?
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It's nothing to do with that in my opinion.emailiscrap said:
The world is full of rules and regulations, some fair, others not so much. In difficult or unexpected situations it may occur that some of the less important rules are broken. We can, as people, choose to use our discretion and allow the small breakage out of compassion or at least in the spirit of "do unto others as you would have them do unto you". People who adhere to each and every ridiculous rule, unwilling to flex to aid another, I find, aren't of the nicest sorts.
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No, because A) if we assume there's a risk of explosion then the till area is well ventilated and almost certainly guaranteed to be air conditioned therefore any vapour entering the shop area will quickly be circulated back outside. and B) going down the distraction argument, they're not operating a flammable liquid dispenser therefore being distracted is a less risky potential outcome for them than for a customer.adapt said:
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yes, they activate them and can switch them off if required.PMKeates said:
what's the worst that could happen if they were distracted? keep you waiting? switch your pump off by accident?
hardly life threatening is it?
Man comes running in with a flamethrower in his hand, picks up pump. Attendant hits "dispense" without checking as he's too busy playing Pong on his mobile and the guy with the flamethrower blows up the whole station.The_Dark_Side said:
Enough risk?
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lol well that is possible i guess that's why we have it drummed into our heads. we have to make sure we can see every pump we turn on before we do so. it can be a pain, but its the only way really.
that's why we have it drummed into our heads. we have to make sure we can see every pump we turn on before we do so. it can be a pain, but its the only way really.
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not really.PMKeates said:Man comes running in with a flamethrower in his hand, picks up pump. Attendant hits "dispense" without checking as he's too busy playing Pong on his mobile and the guy with the flamethrower blows up the whole station.
Enough risk?
the climate at that point had reached a point of balance and the increase in microwave radiation from the attendants mobile was just enough to tip the balance. high pressure areas begin to build up almost instantly and these result in crosswinds which throw off the stoichemetric ratio of fuel to air preventing flamethrower man from igniting the fuel.
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lol you just totally dug yourself in a hole.
You would be distracted and as a result you wouldnt be able to properlly supervise what was happening and watch for people using mobiles etc. to power trip over.
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Not really, Im just throwing it in to keep people interested.
The clear headed point, was that a petrol attendant who is texting on his phone can not properlly monitor the status of the forecourt. Which is a dangerous place.
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I, like, totally didn't dude.Oblivious said:
we're talking about a distraction, not the attendant falling into a coma.Oblivious said:
it's properly by the way
The_Dark_Side said:I, like, totally didn't dude.
we're talking about a distraction, not the attendant falling into a coma.
it's properly by the way
its quite obvious that was a typo.
So its ok for the person in 'charge' of the forecourt to be distracted whilst in control of the pumps and therefore safety?
Right.
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so how does he deal with multiple customers? by constantly staring across the forecourt? no, because this kind of constant supervision isn't needed and, if it were, then all filling stations would be double manned at all times for this reason.Oblivious said:
unless of course you know better than the oil companies themselves AND the HSE who did the risk assessments in the first place?
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Oblivious said:
lol what do you think the 'person in 'charge' of the forecourt' does with his/her time? sit there starring at the forecourt for 8 hours straight?
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and your reasons for that are?
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i'm sure you could as you only have the one task to monitor, but the fact remains that if you take your eye of the ball the consequences can be more severe than if the attendant does the same thing.PMKeates said: