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Phone (S21U) VS Semi Pro / Pro Camera

Discussion in 'Photography & Video' started by 2013, 14 Sep 2021.

  1. 2013


    Joined: 29 Dec 2012

    Posts: 3,387

    I have a Samsung S21 ultra but I've been thinking of buying a stand-alone camera,

    I'm not a professional and won't use it all the time, I was thinking it would be good for family photos or special occasions and maybe other things.

    I was wondering

    Is it worth buying for my needs ?
    Is it worth spending so much on a new camera?
    would I see any real benefits?

    anyone who has got one share your experiance
  2. LiE


    Joined: 2 Aug 2005

    Posts: 22,759

    Location: Milton Keynes

    Results will be better with a dedicated camera if you learn how to use one properly.

    The issue I have with a dedicated camera is the faff of bringing it and carrying it. It also makes me get less involved as I’m in photography mode, looking for shots, composition, settings, etc. This is of course personal to me, will be different for others.
  3. 2013


    Joined: 29 Dec 2012

    Posts: 3,387

    Well I would gradually learn how to use it but it will not be a course or anything like that more of self learning but that would take time, Ir would mostly be point and click to start with and I would not be looking to spend too much as it won't be for work or anything.

    Then you have the issue you have mentioned faff of bringing it and carrying it and another issue of how many images would really get printed
    for that reason, I wanted to know if its worth the investment and hassle over the phone I have
  4. ethan


    Joined: 16 Sep 2005

    Posts: 7,561

    Location: What used to be a UK

    Definitely worth a small Sony DSC RX 100+ series. Plenty available second hand which you could use for the things you mention as a superior point and shoot or manually as you begin to learn. Small enough to carry.
  5. Spleen Sauce

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 16 Jan 2005

    Posts: 1,656

    Location: UK

    What will you be doing with the photos? Do you intend on printing them? And if so, how big?

    If you're just taking photos and they're going to be viewed mainly on phone or tablet screens, then the phone will probably be fine for most scenarios and you'd likely be happy enough. If you're wanting to print the photos, then if you're printing regular 5x7 or 6x4 size shots, again, phone probably fine for most things. Its when you start printing larger that you'll see the benefit from a dedicated camera. Computational photography in the latest smartphones is very good but it can't replace a larger sensor.

    To give you a practical example, I have a Fujifilm X100V and an iPhone 12 Pro Max. The X100V is small but its not really pocketable (unless you have a large coat pocket) so I've still got to make the effort to bring it. My phone is always with me. If I'm going somewhere that I know I might get some nice shots I'll bring the X100V. More often than not, I don't want the faff and I'll just take the iPhone. Occasionally I'll regret not bringing the camera but thats rare. When I go away, be that for daytrips or holidays however, I'll always be taking some form of camera gear. Partly because I really enjoy photography, and partly because I know I can trust my camera gear to get the shot in less-than-perfect conditions.

    TLDR: buy a Ricoh GR3 and take it everywhere with you :D
  6. 2013


    Joined: 29 Dec 2012

    Posts: 3,387

    Thanks ill check it out

    at least half will likely just be loaded on the pc or digi frames etc, rest would get printed in the normal size, a few maybe printed in A4. a few may also be used online. Ill be honest enjoy photos when its an event, birthday/holiday/wedding/party but its very rare to print beyond the basic size, and on big event like weddings we always have a paid photographer.
  7. Barks


    Joined: 20 Jul 2008

    Posts: 4,251

    This. I'm Fujifilm X-T20 and iPhone 12 Pro Max. Use the latter when out and about but the Fujifilm is light years ahead in terms of image quality, no competition whatsoever. 12 Pro Max shots are sharp but overly processed and it takes ProRaw and some Lightroom work to get around that. They have a clear 'computational photography' look to them it's hard to describe, everything is just enhanced and doesn't look quite right. Still, fine for daily use and documenting the odd memory but since lockdown for all family gatherings/birthdays/weddings/holidays etc I've had my Fujifilm with me and the results are superior to anything from my iPhone.
  8. Minstadave


    Joined: 8 Jan 2004

    Posts: 28,847

    Location: Rutland

    I do like the multishot HDR the S21U does when there's heavy backlighting but performance drops off a cliff in low light, especially I'm video where it can't do any multi-shot night mode wizardry.