Picked up my new car this weekend........955hp V10 Audi RS6! (HP figure updated 08/10/22)

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@ianh - Do you have a quick reference list of the work you've had done/specs for 900~HP?

Mate of mine who has one currently running 731HP is wondering. :)

I've been trawling through the thread trying to piece it together but I'm not sure whats changed etc. :p
 
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Does this help @Acme

Sorry matey I missed this when I scanned the thread. This is a reply from another forum but I'm not typing it out again :D -

TTE 850+ Turbos - £2200
Uprated Gearbox from Ricky Elder @ REPerformance - £3800
MRC Uprated Injectors - £2000 (no need for HPFP)
KWE IC’s (without fans) & Silicone Pipes - £1200
KWE 3in Cat-Back Exhaust - £700
MRC 3.5in to 3in De-Cat Downpipes - £1000
Aquamist HFS-4 - £700
Zirotek Ceramic Coating on Intake pipes - £300
MRC Race Air Filters - £120
MRC Ported Turbo Inlets - £200
MRC Mapping (50% discount) - £740
MRC Gearbox Map Tweak - £90
Labour (inc Fluids/Gaskets/Seals/Pipes etc.) - £4750
Shipping Various Parts - £330
Total - £17500 (est)

So that’s my spec with prices I paid and where/who I bought things from but now I’ll explain why I bought those parts when there are a few options available in each area and why I’ve missed some things out.

Turbos - I like the work that TTE do, they hit the power I wanted as proven by dyno results and Doug at MRC said they are now getting better results from them than before which why I went with TTE in the end.

Gearbox – I’ve put a separate thread up about this but long story short, finding out I could get one for under £4k was the single reason I decided on 900+hp. As mentioned above originally I was going to go 830hp-ish with DP’s and TTE turbos only while I tried to find a gearbox and at exactly the right time Ricky Elder pops up and within 24hrs of hearing that he could supply the same GB that is fitted to Classba/Trups and Brett’s car, both of which made 1200nm, I was sold!

Just before the mapping started on mine (it may have been the day before) I found out from Trups that his GB had sheared a shaft and I wasn’t sure what caused it (torque/design/other) so I asked MRC to map the torque low while the failure was investigated just in case it turned out to be a weakness in the uprated box. Subsequently we’ve found out that the issue wasn’t with the gearbox but by then MRC had finished the map (I only found out the actual issue the day I picked it up). Chatting to Doug he thinks there’s another 50nm-ish in there so I could ask for it to be re-mapped higher now but it come down to cost vs benefit (unless Doug does the map for free :D).

Bigger Injectors Vs HPFPs – Originally I didn’t know that bigger injectors were available so I bought a set of Loba HPFP’s to use with the OEM injectors (injectors open for the same amount of time but higher rail pressure means more fuel in the cylinder). On the day I dropped my car off MRC mentioned that, if I wanted, they now sell a bigger set of injectors (same rail pressure and same open time but wider bore means more fuel) so I bought them and expected MRC to use a combination of both. However, I didn’t realise that you only need to use one or the other, not both so when I picked my car up the Lobas were sat in the boot unused and they’ll be for sale soon.

KWE Intercoolers – Again, I’ve done a big thread about these so long story short – Cost & no-one else had done it to prove one way or another that these are good/bad.

KWE 3in Exhaust – The non-res KWE was cheap (£700) but it was well made if a little thin and makes a great noise, it really does, but it’s been a pain to fit and it was a little droney at 2k rpm. With the De-Cat the volume has now gone up to a potentially “unacceptable to my neighbour” level so I’ll look at swapping to a custom resonated exhaust in the future. I’ve also got a couple of spare cats for the MOT which I need to look at making removable/re-fitable.

Zircotek – I knew I was going to be fighting heat issues from day one and keeping the intake temps down was a priority so when I found that Ziroctek has released a “new” coating specifically to prevent radiated heat soaking into intake pipes I thought I had to give it a try. TBH it’s been a pain dealing with them as a company (10 days took 20!) and I really don’t know if there is any measurable benefit as the outside of the intake pipe still gets hot to the touch once the engine has been off for 5 mins (maybe the inside is still cool?) although they are very cold straight after engine shutdown.

So then, what’s it like to drive? - :eek: :D :eek: :D :eek: :D :eek: :D :eek: :D :eek: :D :eek: :D :eek: :D :eek: :D :eek: :D :eek: :D :eek: :D :eek: :D :eek: :D :eek: :D :eek: :D :eek: :D :eek: :D

After being so used to a stage 2 car there’s a few “me learning the car” things which are interesting, like the car now loves to follow the camber of the road at full throttle leading to some interesting “where’s the car going now at Mach 10” moments. It’ll now break traction in 2nd and 3rd if you’re not aware of the road surface when accelerating and the poor traction control is having a nightmare keeping up, so much so I’ve now found it safer to switch the whole ASR and ESP off and just allowing the Quattro system to find the best grip which is a much better idea (traction was killing power just as you pulled out for an overtake!) which is something I never had to do while the car was at stage 2.

Maybe it’s because I was in MRCs loan S4 for 3 months and had forgotten how fast the RS6 is but I swear it doesn’t “feel” like there’s 200hp extra, it feels like there’s much more. I’m now aware of the G-force pulling at my face and arms as I bury the throttle, which is fun every…..single….time!

One thing I haven’t mentioned is the brakes! I’m running AP racing 390mm discs, Ferodo DS2500’s and Castrol SRF fluid and, so far on the road, they’ve coped better than I’d expected. They’d be limited on a track though (and I do a few track days a year) so for my own safety I’m still upgrading the AP 410mm setup but I’m very surprised how well the OEM sized AP’s have coped.

So what’s next? Well even though I’ve only got a week in the car there’s a few “niggles” I want to get sorted – A knocking from the RH downpipe (I think), less droney exhaust and the bigger 410mm AP racing brakes, all of which costs even more money so for the time, as the car doesn’t suffer any issues on the road I’ll be sorting the exhaust/DPs first (noisy neighbours) and then moving onto the brakes at a later date while I find out more about the Sportmile IC’s from Doug and look at a the cost vs benefit of another re-map for full torque.

Whilst it was MRC I also took the opportunity to have a bunch of other small jobs sorted (not included in the costs above) -

Replaced the coolant pipes behind the arches - These are now a known point of failure for corrosion so I replaced them.
Removed secondary air injection and blank the combi valves - I've had the cold air start mapped out which removes the need for this and its valves.
Replaced all 4 Wheel Bearings - Nothing "wrong" with the originals but at 95K miles I felt they should be replaced.
Replaced rear track rods - Nothing "wrong" with the originals but I felt they should be replaced anyway.
Replaced front upper arms - Nothing "wrong" with the originals but I felt they should be replaced anyway.
Replaced front lower arms - Nothing "wrong" with the originals but I felt they should be replaced anyway.
Replaced front track rod ends - Nothing "wrong" with the originals but I felt they should be replaced anyway.
Engine oil change - Went from OEM Audi oil to Fuchs Titan Race Pro S 5w-40 which is a fully ester based oil.
Brake Fluid Change - Went from ATE SuperBlue to Castrol SRF. The ATE was fine at stage 2 on the road but started to show its limits on the track so I felt the new power levels needed a better fluid.
Updated the MMi to 5570 - Something I was going to do myself but never got around to. Can't tell the difference to be fair, even the 3D maps look the same.
Fixed the "Brake Pad Low" warning - Traced the fault back to a dodgy loom but, as my pads don't have a wear sensor, we removed the loom rather than replacing it as it isn't being used and a Pad check is part of my monthly maintenance check list.
Engine Carbon Clean – As already posted here.

Anyway, thats the story on mine so far, if you made it through my wall of text so far then congrats!!!!
 
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:D :D :D :D IT'S BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D

Picked it up earlier today and, after a few nervous moments trying to remember how my car actually worked (it's been 19 Months since I last drove it) and making sure it was all taxed, had AA cover etc I finally took it out for a quick 50 mile spin. However with the Methanol/Water mix being 19 months old and having none at Unit20 I took it easy until I could get back home and replace the old meth mix with new but even at 1/2 throttle it's still surprisingly quick.

So next up is a trip back to Unit20 for a "post 500 mile" check next week just to make sure everything is spot on after such a massive rebuild, plus it'll be back at Unit20 in the Autumn (while I'm back in Saudi) to finish off the suspension refresh as the metal DRC pipework is corroded to buggery and needs replacing yet there's none available at the moment. Currently the struts are still unchanged until the pipes are ready.

At some point I also need to book a trip to MRC for a map tweak for more torque but I'll ask them to look at the top end as there was evidence of the cylinders running just too hot even with Water injection etc after 10k miles of 900+hp so I'll get the top end dropped a little (around 870-880ish) just to be safe.
 
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The bill was bad but I'd actually budgeted double the amount expecting "The Worst" but the garage did me a huge deal with the labour bill.

Coming the the meet then? ;)

I fly back on the day of the meet, doh! Plus I'm back in Stoke when I'm home now.

Wait, where has it been?

Spent 19 months in a garage with the No1 cylinder scored (I also moved abroad in that time). We think the piston swelled due to excess heat and allowed the rings to touch the wall scoring it in one place and losing compression/blowing oil etc.
 
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