Pizza Hut apologises after demanding a group of black players pay in advance for their bill

What if it was a judgement call diffeing between two different team leaders?

I should clarify my original statement as 'it is viewed as racial discrimination'. The whole 'pay in advance' policy should have been cleared by Pizza Hut's head office so team leaders and all relevant staff were aware of its conditions and implications. That way a judgement call wouldn't need to be made as all customers would be processed by the policy.

What if the recent history of people doing a bunk were all of black origin?

If the thefts were taking place by the same individuals then it would make sense to ban those particular individuals and imo wouldn't be viewed as racial discrimination. I can't imagine a realistic scenario where only random black people were stealing and all other ethnic groups were not. Even if this were true I still believe the policy should apply to all customers and not just those of black origin.
 
"One of them said they were asked by the manager to pay upfront, but a group of white teenagers who entered the restaurant later were not."

Then being asked to leave after the police were called? Also not doing a blanket change of payment method, how very lazy of management.
 
I guess my point which was poorly made, is that I do not see a problem with any discrimination when it comes to a business. From a free market perspective, a person should be able to serve any one they like based on whatever conditions are met or are not met.
 
Well asking black people to pay upfront but not white people leaves you wide open to cries of racism.

its more likely down to the types of clothes they were wearing..

you see some guy come in looking like a gansta rapper and your obviously going to be wondering...

you see someone come in with jeans and a shirt or whatever... your less likely to suspect them of theft
 
its more likely down to the types of clothes they were wearing..

you see some guy come in looking like a gansta rapper and your obviously going to be wondering...

you see someone come in with jeans and a shirt or whatever... your less likely to suspect them of theft

So stereotyping then.
 
its more likely down to the types of clothes they were wearing..

you see some guy come in looking like a gansta rapper and your obviously going to be wondering...

you see someone come in with jeans and a shirt or whatever... your less likely to suspect them of theft
Mr Robinson added: “We’re all grown men and we were smartly dressed. When the lads go out for a meal, we know we’re representing the club. We know that people recognise us and we have to behave.

“We ordered our food. The manager came up with the bill and said: ‘Would you mind paying first?’ “We asked if that was the policy and he said ‘no’. When we asked why he’d asked us, he said: ‘It’s the way you look.'"

The Bournemouth Echo article on the incident

I've no doubt someone on OcUK will continue to decry PC madness (I'd be disappointed in this place if it didn't), but if the above is true, and no further details were being provided, I can completely understand why you'd assume a racial motivation for it.
 
Ooooh, I have an itchy trigger finger.

Every city in the UK has a poor area filled with whites. Does this make it statistically likely that white teenagers are going to steal food from pizza Hut?

Just noticed your avatar......

I'll be staying out of your "Don't post in here" threads late at night.

Welcome back.
 
Just read this article on the BBC News website...basically a bunch of black footballers went into Pizza Hut and were asked to pay in advance for their meal, after a spate of food theft. The police advised Pizza Hut to implement this control. Suddenly it's turned into a racist poo storm, as apparently a group of white lads later went in and were not asked to pay in advance.

So, blatant racism or another example of political correctness gone mad?

My view is that this could easily be just an administrative error rather than a deliberate ploy to single out certain groups. Maybe I'm being naive...either the duty manager actively singled out the group as he felt they may not pay, or he made a mistake in not spotting the white lads in time. Or...he used his judgement and felt that the white lads were less rowdy, younger, dressed in a more middle class fashion...

AFC Bournemough club chairman said: "In this day and age, it is upsetting to hear that people are treated differently because of the colour of their skin and at AFC Bournemouth, we will not condone any treatment of people in such a way."

How does he KNOW it was due to the colour of their skin and not just a mistake? People are far to quick to jump on the bandwagon and it helps no-one.

PS I can understand the players anger as Pizza Hut is awesome, especially stuffed crust double pepperoni! In all seriousness I'm not sure how cheesed off I'd be if I was asked to pay in advance for my meal. I frequently do this when I eat at pubs...just pay at the bar at time of order as I know I'm not going to order any more drinks.

I can understand their anger if they felt that it was racist and without seeing the event, I couldn't judge for myself really. I just dont think the chairman's comments are helpful and make huge assumptions. His interests are only in defending his players, not making rational sensible statements.

My final comment is that we cannot take away people's ability to use judgement calls and common sense. Not everything is 'black and white' :D:D.



Link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-11934942

has anybody considered that the reason the group of white lads werent asked to pay is because the store didnt want any more adverse reactions and thus decided to stop enforcing the policy.

Would it not have been the case that if another group of black men came in the store they too would not have been asked to pay because the store didnt want the aggro again ?
 
Whilst you are generally correct on the statistics, this doesn't give you an excuse to make generalisations in such policies. It's discriminatory and wrong.

Just shows the hipocracy of society. It's alright to charge women less car insurance than men based on actuarial statisitcs showing they crash less; yet if statistics show blacks do thing x more than whites there is no way you're allowed to treat them differently.

If we're going to rage against using statistics to make policies, let's rage at the ones that are consistenly used everyday and are viewed as normal. Or is "sexism" okay but "racism" not?
 
The Bournemouth Echo article on the incident

I've no doubt someone on OcUK will continue to decry PC madness (I'd be disappointed in this place if it didn't), but if the above is true, and no further details were being provided, I can completely understand why you'd assume a racial motivation for it.

yea smartly dressed to some people is
G-STAR 100 quid jeans , G-STAR 50quid tshirt , 120 quid hightops and a 50 quid baseball cap
 
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