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please recommend a graphics card upgrade for my system

How much of a bottleneck ? You're talking about a 10-30% performance loss so why recommend he buy a card like the 4870 which will also suffer that exact same performance loss. Not only that, it's half as quick as the 460,energy inefficient and is 2 generations behind current graphics cards.

Sorry but that's just a bad recommendation.

When the OP comes to upgrading his PC (let's say this time next year) he should be able to carry his 460 forward - can't say the same for a 4870/260.
 
Subliminal Aura said:
How much of a bottleneck ? You're talking about a 10-30% performance loss so why recommend he buy a card like the 4870 which will also suffer that exact same performance loss. Not only that, it's half as quick as the 460,energy inefficient and is 2 generations behind current graphics cards.

Sorry but that's just a bad recommendation.

When the OP comes to upgrading his PC (let's say this time next year) he should be able to carry his 460 forward - can't say the same for a 4870/260.
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Exactly the reason when I said it's best to just get 2nd hand £40 range card. Most modern games are fairly CPU demanding these days, and I've seen people with Athlon dual-core bottlenecking even 8800GTX in game such as BFBC2. You might argue BFBC2 is fairly CPU demanding, but the point is games is going get more and more CPU demanding, not the otherway round.

Like I said, the GTX460 768MB is only worth considering if he will soon upgrading his system. But if he's not upgrading, why spend £75-£85 extra on getting the GTX460 768MB, when it is not gonna be faster than the 2nd hand £40 range cards?

Normally I would be with the people that are recommending GTX460 768MB, but with the OP's system being taking into consideration, I cannot agree with them for this particular scenerio.
 
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Huh ? Hows a GTX460 not going to be faster than a 4870 ?

You need to show proof of these excessive bottlenecks that you're quoting ?

Also where are you getting your pricing from ? I picked up a second hand 1gig MSI hawk for £100 but greedy 4870 owners still want £50 for their old cards.
 
Subliminal Aura said:
Huh ? Hows a GTX460 not going to be faster than a 4870 ?

You need to show proof of these excessive bottlenecks that you're quoting ?

Also where are you getting your pricing from ? I picked up a second hand 1gig MSI hawk for £100 but greedy 4870 owners still want £50 for their old cards.
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You do realise the recommendation by people are getting a GTX460 768MB is new, not 2nd hand...and it cost £115-£125 vs the £40 2nd hand cards?

And I don't need to prove anything for 'your' sake. Not my fault that you haven't seen all the posts by various people saying their dual-core at running at 100% usage, but the GPU usage never seem to be able to reach 100%, and Athlon I dual-core is a dinosaur which is too slow (not to mention that the Athlon 64 x2 4800+ is not even top end of the Athlon series) for today's standard.

Rather than tell ME to show proves that the Athlon 64 4800+ dual-core would bottleneck the GTX460 768MB, how about YOU showing proves that that 5 years old first gen dual-core 90nm CPU, and DDR1 400MHHz RAM WON'T be a bottleneck for the GTX460 768MB?
 
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