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Plex server (another thread)

Discussion in 'Servers and Enterprise Solutions' started by gazum123, Apr 10, 2018.

  1. gazum123

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    Hello All,

    I am currently in a bit of a debate as I don't want to run my main PC 24/7 anymore and would like to host a few bits internally. I am really looking for recommendations on what would be best for a low cost from using some of my current components in a server / plex build as apposed to building new. Ideally less than £400 would be good as I don't want to spend too much on it:

    Current PC:

    i7 3930K
    16GB DDR3 Memory
    850W Corsair Gold PSU
    Intel Watercooler
    128GB SSD
    GTX 980


    What do you think is best to do use my current build minus the 980 and PSU and buy some new components for my gaming PC or go down the rout of building a plex server new ? Ideally looking to stream 2 max 1080p streams at once with the potential to have a few game servers running e.g. minecraft
     
  2. Steveocee

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    A dedicated box for plex will be significantly cheaper than rebuilding a gaming machine.

    Building something homebrew and running a hypervisor on it, unRAID or ESXi for example is a good idea as then you can run as many virtuals as you like (depending on what CPU you use).
     
  3. gazum123

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    I was probably going to go the ESXI route as I have most experience with that. In terms of building a box any recommendations around the £400 range ? I know my 3930k has a passmark of 12k which is very good for plex and with the multiple cores would be decent for a VE.
     
  4. Avalon

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    A few suggestions:

    If you have a local server, it will logically be on. That goes against your not running a PC 24/7 goal.

    Rent a VPS - Hetzner Cloud + PlexGuide with GSuite Business for unlimited back end storage. It’ll set you back a few quid each month, no power/heat/noise, 10Gbit connectivity (10TB upload/month). Hetzner starts from €3/m +tax and can be scaled up as needed, GSuite is $10/m etc. £400 obviously would last you a while, even longer if you factor in the power savings.

    Plexguide is basically an automated method of installing the programs that most people use to automate media acquisition, processing and sorting/upload to google drive. eg Sonarr/Radarr, Rclone, Plexdrive, news/torrent+VPN etc. and works well as a Ubuntu based VM.

    Alternatively just buy a PSU and low end GPU for your existing box and add as much storage as you can, personally I’d go unraid, but YMMV. Intel’s power gate technology means idle power consumption is minimal, Plex will eat your 128GB alive with a medium sized media library (60TB) even with thumbnails off. You mention the CPU mark, but don’t explain why you’d need to transcode? Choose the proper clients and media, and you will not need to transcode locally - at one stage I ran Plex on a N2820, no issues with two concurrent 1080p streams direct playing from local storage or a NAS.
     
  5. gazum123

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    Hello,

    In regards to the local server I am happy to run a box 24/7 but didn't want to run my current gaming PC 24/7 and would prefer to have something dedicated to plex / various other bits internally.

    I will check out plexguide I use Sonarr and Radarr currently so will be intresting to see.


    PC wise I still want my gaming PC my real question is do you think buying a lower watt PSU cheap case and cheap GPU and then using my current i7 in the box for the vm / plex stuff then buying a new MB / CPU for my gaming PC be better than just going and building a box on it own ? Disk storage isn't a problem I have some 4TB drives knocking about that I will use.

    In terms of transcoding I do watch on various devices (Fire Tab, PC, Android TV) so I do prefer to just download one format of movie / show and it all just happen in the background. I was thinking more also with the high CPU core count would be good for running multiple things
     
  6. Semple

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    I quite liked this idea, so was having a read up on it.

    Unfortunately GSuite isn't unlimited backend until you have over 5 users (1TB each), at a cost of £6.60 per user would mean £39.60/month to take advantage of unlimited storage.
     
  7. Avalon

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    It wasn’t an idea, it’s not a limit that has ever been enforced. I’d not bother pointing it out if it wasn’t possible.
     
  8. Semple

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    Well i'd be surprised if Google don't enforce it, and besides my worry would be sticking 5Tb's of data up there, for them then to decide they now will enforce it.
     
  9. Avalon

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    Then you must be surprised and have been that way for over a year. 5TB? That's under a week's upload (750GB/day per paid user), some people are into the PB's, either way it works for thousands of others, if it's not for you, then fair enough.