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Poll, nVidia CEO on Free Sync, is he believable or not?

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by humbug, Jan 11, 2019.

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Do you believe Jensen Huang

  1. I believe Jensen Huang

    21 vote(s)
    10.9%
  2. I do not believe Jensen Huang

    118 vote(s)
    61.5%
  3. Pancakes

    53 vote(s)
    27.6%
  1. TNA

    Sgarrista

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    The more you buy the more save!
     
  2. spoffle

    Capodecina

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    I think it's only LambChop that believes Jen-Hsun's claims.
     
  3. EastCoastHandle

    Gangster

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    If only Nvidia could have gotten away with rebranding AMD cards through AIBs and controlling the media with NDA 2.0 they would have gotten away with it.
     
  4. humbug

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    Awesome, thank you :)
     
  5. kazuya1337

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    I think this is just Nvidia moving G-Sync to the high end and will probably get it's Monitor partners to put all their best panels in G-Sync monitors, nothing will change if you can afford a high end Nvidia card you can afford and will want a high end monitor.
     
  6. Firestar_3x

    Caporegime

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    nVidia have done this to sway people who have a Free Sync monitor into buying an nVidia card.

    However from what i have seen using Free Sync can be far from a seamless experience.
     
  7. humbug

    Caporegime

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    So 58% don't believe Jens and 32% like Rossi's Pancakes.

    Why do they do it? lie like this when no one believes it.
     
  8. Nasher

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    It's already getting there. The APUs built in to Ryzen are already pretty good.

    Once we do get there, Nvidia isn't really going to have anything. They don't make CPUs.
     
  9. TheRealDeal

    Sgarrista

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    Lets play a game of guess who the 6 people are that believe Jensen :D:D:D:D:D
     
  10. opethdisciple

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    I think what he's saying is it doesn't work in the same consistent way you get with Gsync.

    For example every Gsync panel meets the same minimum standards. It's the Ronseal of variable refresh rate technology as I have said before.

    The same cannot be said for FreeSync. A lot of variation in features and support between different panels/manufactures.

    So he's not *entirely* wrong in saying it doesn't work. He's just over simplified it.
     
  11. humbug

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    That sounds like a slimy politician having said something quite clearly and after having been ridiculed for it trying to explain away "what i meant by it was......"
     
  12. opethdisciple

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    Slimy or not, it's the lay of the land.

    FreeSync needs to be standardised and it needs to be enforced for a monitor to be FreeSync certified it needs to meet or exceed a set minimum set of features and support for the technology.

    Then and ONLY then will it meet the same quality set by Gsync.

    ---

    Even better would be to say, there is no 'exceeds' and only it meets or it doesn't meet.

    Thus FreeSync certified or not.

    ---

    I know FreeSync 2 is meant to solve this issue and do what I say above, but has it achieved it?

    This ambiguity wouldn't exist if it had solved the problem.
     
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2019
  13. humbug

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    Free-Sync has made Adaptive Sync Technology available on screens costing as little as £99, if AMD were to force minimum standards on screen vendors the price of them will go up, nVidia's screens start at around £400. Its why G-Sync despite nVidia owning 80% of the market can only be described as a failure compared with Free-Sync.
     
  14. opethdisciple

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    That's a good point. And very important for those on budgets. I accept that.

    But then you must accept that the premium vsync technology is Gysnc and the cheap second tier technology is FreeSync.

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    But again back to Jensen's comments it's this ambiguity that he is referring too with his comments.
     
  15. humbug

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    A lot of reviewers have done blind tests with the general public and professional gamers, in all cases none of them could tell the difference between Free-Sync and G-Sync, they used G-Sync and Free-Sync equivalents of the same screen and i have no doubt that a £200 Free-Sync screen vs a £600 G-Sync screen the difference would be obvious to those eyes.

    Free-Sync works just as well as G-Sync or not as well, depending on what your willing to pay.
     
  16. NMBlack

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    He's clearly talking bo**ocks....if freesync didn't work with AMD cards, the "graphics cards" and "monitors" sections on this forum would be full of threads and posts from angry AMD users.
     
  17. opethdisciple

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    And this in a nutshell is what Jensen is referring too. He just encapsulated it up in too 'it doest work' because it's not standardised.

    I'm not arguing for or against it. Just explaining it.

    Being not standardise was in fact a contributing factor why I went Nvidia GPU and Gsync monitor in the first place.

    The alternative was Vega 64 and FreeSync.
     
  18. humbug

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    "The truth is most of the FreeSync monitors do not work."
    "(FreeSync) was never proven to work"
    "They do not even work with AMD’s graphics cards"

    No mate....
     
  19. TheRealDeal

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    With comments like that there is no way even Tony Blairs spin doctors would take on the task of making it sound like he meant something different. It's all there in black and white.
     
  20. Nasher

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    Gsync is competing with a free product which does the same job. It was never going to survive.

    We are lucky AMD (and Intel I guess) aren't interested in locking people in to their own ecosystem and see that it only does bad things to the industry.