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Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Destination, 18 Apr 2017.

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Who will you vote for?

  1. Conservatives

  2. Labour

  3. Lib Dem

  4. UKIP

  5. Other (please state)

  6. I won't be voting

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  1. Danthus

    Capodecina

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    Try being in the Labour Party at the minute. :D :D :D
     
  2. dowie

    Capo Crimine

    Joined: 29 Jan 2008

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    What in particular do you think is 'propaganda' here? - it seems like most people have been posting news stories and ironically the thing most resembling 'propaganda' is the following post by you:

    Do you have or are you able to provide some context to the above or was it just copied and pasted from Facebook?
     
  3. Dolph

    Man of Honour

    Joined: 17 Oct 2002

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    What will happen to those who are currently having their housing costs paid? Housing benefit is a Tenant subsidy, not a landlord one.

    I agree with you by the way, but the impact of the loss of benefit won't really be to the landlord, who can replace the tenant, but to the tenant who can no longer pay their rent.
     
  4. benneh

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    So you don't want to reset it because you're afraid that there will be a higher turnout for labour?.
     
  5. inogen

    Soldato

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    Really?!!?

    Who TF ends up with the money?
     
  6. Greebo

    Caporegime

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    Location: Co Durham

    The one on the left is May holding a rally at a disused airfield in Northumberland with a "few" local invite only supportors and selected press. The cropped shot was the one used by the Tory loving Telegraph.

    The one on the right is shot of people turning up to hear Corbyrn speak. This was then closed cropped to it looked like the same number of people as at May's rally.

    So the press running the story they want not the truth just lick Trump and his inauguration crowd numbers.
     
  7. Gabbatek

    Wise Guy

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    And if i remember correctly certain mp's own housing accosiations which of course accept housing benefit. I'd like to say they're torry but i'd bet the blairites would be guilty of it


    edit, here it is

    https://www.theguardian.com/housing...tory-landlord-mps-housing-bill-private-rented

    Mostly conservatives haa
     
  8. Gabbatek

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  9. EVH

    Don

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    Lol. Nope. But I think that's what you want.

    As a mod team we've decided that we will allow users to change votes instead of resetting polls. It's a new feature of the forum, so we'll use it.
     
  10. dowie

    Capo Crimine

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    But there was/is no link to the actual article - now that you've said that I'm more inclined to give it some weight but the picture itself lacks context. I would be interested to see the article itself - is the relative size of the crowd particularly relevant even?
     
  11. benneh

    Sgarrista

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    It's a bit of a joke, but I'm not a mod so I don't get to have a say. I shall stop going on about it :).
     
  12. V F

    Capodecina

    Joined: 13 Aug 2003

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    Location: UK

    By all means, discuss/debate but it still doesn't change the fact the poll is irrelevant. Feels like Groundhog Day to be honest.

    Most people aren't honest in polls anyway. Some are and then there are some who like to spike things or annoy others with their votes. The only poll that matters is election day.
     
  13. asim18

    Capodecina

    Joined: 5 Dec 2006

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    I know. I refuse to believe people are actually voting for two of the most confused and frankly dangerously low calibre candidates for PM in the history of PMs. This woman has absolutely no idea what's going on around her and is on the brink of senility. Poor woman just wanted to give herself a chance to not be PM but people still be voting for her? lmao it makes no sense, just take the hint and let her go!
     
  14. Dolph

    Man of Honour

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    Who ends up with the product?

    The person who is getting something they otherwise wouldn't is the claimant, not the landlord.
     
  15. StriderX

    Caporegime

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    Surely they can then just pump the rent up to involve the subsidy?
     
  16. Freakbro

    Capodecina

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    Not that I care, but I think the point is if you keep the poll and people just change their vote is that, yes the end result is the same, but you don't have the intermediary data points preserved to see any change over time as your not going to remember the previous starting point
     
  17. Dolph

    Man of Honour

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    Oh housing benefit certainly distorts the market, driving up the average rent for eligible properties. But it still isn't a subsidy to the landlord.
     
  18. StriderX

    Caporegime

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    Well if it drives up the rent, then by and large it becomes one? surely?

    As in, exactly like when the US Fed said it would subsidies student debt x amount, x amount was added straight onto the fees by Universities?

    Government sucks.
     
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  19. Dolph

    Man of Honour

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    No, because the rent increase applies across the whole market, not just to landlords with benefit claiming tenants.

    The subsidy goes to the tenant. The market impact of the subsidy results in an increase in rents due to increasing demand at the housing benefit price point.

    It cannot ever become a subsidy to the landlord.
     
  20. Bald-Eagle22

    Wise Guy

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    Location: Essex

    Can't understand anyone voting labour. Corbin is a compete turd how on earth can anyone believe the country getting into any more mountainous debt is a good idea is beyond me.

    Same for Lib dems , they just want to score some pot .

    UKIP have done there job .

    Mrs May for me but I prefer the on e in the " Smack my bitch up video "
     
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