Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th
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I'd like to change my vote from the Tories, but then I look at the other options and stick the selection back in Tory :/ I'd be happy with the ConLib coalition again with the same personnel
You think they will refund you your national insurance payments when the NHS is dead? No
What about your worthless pension?
Excuse me, but maybe you mistake me for someone with an entitlement complex. I don't expect to see every penny of my contributions back, I just want it spending with some thought and care - something I do not always see happening by government departments of all colours, but some decidedly more wasteful than others.
Tax and NI contributions are not some sort of savings account you know.
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Have changed my vote from Lib Dem's to Labour, just can't even comprehend why people would be voting for the Conservatives this time around.
has been asked for before in the thread - it seems the answer from the mods is simply to change your answer in the current poll if needed
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I was happy with the ConLib coalition. It had balance. The next run was reasonable in that Cameron wanted taxes reduced for lower incomes. He cut, but you had an inclination as to what they were trying to do.
Now May comes in with no interest in continuing that line of thought, seems to be pushing and bending legislation to fit some unspoken agenda (snoopers charter, internet control) and I just do not trust them in the slightest. Lots of rhetoric about being "for the working class" but I'm yet to see anything which suggests so.
I would sooner have Labour over this direction we are heading in. If only to get us through five years until better candidates to come along. (Hope)
Now May comes in with no interest in continuing that line of thought, seems to be pushing and bending legislation to fit some unspoken agenda (snoopers charter, internet control) and I just do not trust them in the slightest. Lots of rhetoric about being "for the working class" but I'm yet to see anything which suggests so.
I would sooner have Labour over this direction we are heading in. If only to get us through five years until better candidates to come along. (Hope)
I'm glad people are waking up.
Strong leadership during the negotiations never meant a thing. None of the PM candidates even reassemble strong leadership, they represent fill ins waiting for someone better.
I wish UK politics would get a shake up. Then someone will balls redo the tax system, The benefits system and then look at public services.
Strong leadership during the negotiations never meant a thing. None of the PM candidates even reassemble strong leadership, they represent fill ins waiting for someone better.
I wish UK politics would get a shake up. Then someone will balls redo the tax system, The benefits system and then look at public services.
both parties have proposed changes in those areas that are hardly insignificant - Labour has proposed tax rises, the Tories have proposed a big change to how social care for the elderly is funded
the typical mindless criticism that they're all the same is pretty misplaced as far as this election is concerned - Labour and the Tories offer genuine alternatives to each other
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Ditching Levenson as well:
https://skwawkbox.org/2017/05/20/ve...-gives-big-newspapers-all-theyve-wanted-ge17/
https://skwawkbox.org/2017/05/20/ve...-gives-big-newspapers-all-theyve-wanted-ge17/
So Tories still getting in. Well done.
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Changed from not voting to Labour.
This. The tax system, for both individuals and businesses, is far too complex. Worse, it is also highly divisive. Statements such as tax bankers to pay for nurses are designed purely to be emotive and are wrong, for example.
Politicians also always talk in terms of spending next year or spending over the course of a parliament. That masks the true cost of things, in particular when focussing on some benefit payments that sound like they are a major drain on the nation but which in reality represent a fraction of overall welfare spending from our annual and ongoing budget.
Tax, sure, but national insurance is your premium that entitles you to services, payouts, etc if you happen to need them. If those services and benefit payouts evaporate then they're going to have to change the narrative on what NI is actually for and who is entitled to the benefits.
There's so reason why qualification for benefits needs to have a monetary value attached, such as NI. It is incredibly outdated and needlessly complex.
In which case they should abolish NI and increase income tax rates to account for it, which is a policy I would back wholeheartedly. Ditch NI and increase basic rate to 32% or thereabouts and higher rate to 42%. Job done. If you get the numbers right it will be tax neutral and then you save on administration.
I have said the very same thing for a long time.
Would make far more sense to me. However, any government knows the majority don't really understand NI so they can fiddle with NI yet keep income tax low.
I watched the review of the Tory and Labour manifesto and although they both have aspects I like and dislike, I prefer the Tory manifesto.
State run railways across Europe are far more efficient than our privatised railway comparing the old British rail days when rail travel was in decline to today's world where growth in passenger and freight numbers is massive is ridiculous. I'm not saying nationalisation is the only answer but if we are going to maintain a privatised industry then we should fully privatise it tracks and all and stop subsidising it if the companies are reporting an operating profit.
Isn't there an employers contribution to NI too? How would you handle that? I am certainly not opposed to the idea as NI just goes into general taxation anyway, it isn't ring fenced in any way.
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