Poll: Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Mk II

[jimjamuk]

Another poll has been leaked and has Labour and Tories 1 point apart.

But as we have seen before - the part of the population that have been called horrible names for the last few weeks will quietly turn up on polling day and put an X in the Cons box. Same thing happened on Brexit and the last GE

Dont get me wrong I think the Cons have lost quite a few voters but there will still be a few % out there who wont want to say they are voting conservative. Looking at Facebook there is some bad stuff going round in support of Labour

 

[McBain]

Just a reminder, a vote for Labour means that this clueless, racist moron will be in high office.

She is a disaster.

 

[Caged]

I'm hosting for my brother this evening and we've been chewing the fat. I thought I'd won him over to labour but we've been watching Abbott videos.

My god - what do I do

Show them the work that Keir Starmer is doing and ask him if he genuinely believes that David Davis has his head screwed on right when he talks about having done 100 entire pages of work on Brexit since last June, with no costings for a "no deal" option, focus on the constituency MP and the work they've been doing.

 

[Trusty]

But as we have seen before - the part of the population that have been called horrible names for the last few weeks will quietly turn up on polling day and put an X in the Cons box. Same thing happened on Brexit and the last GE

Dont get me wrong I think the Cons have lost quite a few voters but there will still be a few % out there who wont want to say they are voting conservative. Looking at Facebook there is some bad stuff going round in support of Labour

It's disgraceful, isn't it. People who vote conservative are labelled evil, truly ridiculous

 

[mrbios]

She is a disaster.

Not too dissimilar to May though to be honest... difference is the tories have their disaster at the top of the chain.

But as we have seen before - the part of the population that have been called horrible names for the last few weeks will quietly turn up on polling day and put an X in the Cons box. Same thing happened on Brexit and the last GE

Dont get me wrong I think the Cons have lost quite a few voters but there will still be a few % out there who wont want to say they are voting conservative. Looking at Facebook there is some bad stuff going round in support of Labour

There's just as much going in the other direction, i've been on the receiving end of verbal facebook abuse from tory supporters. Frankly the worst seem to be existing end ex ukip voters.

 

[Trusty]

I'm afraid it never ends. In the grim darkness of the far future... there is only Abbot.

From today?! Juicy from 3 mins.

Complete joker

 

[Trusty]

Not too dissimilar to May though to be honest... difference is the tories have their disaster at the top of the chain.

You really think Abbot and May are on the same level, i'm weeping.

 

[Andrew_McP]

If, and it's a huge if, Labour were to gain power, it would be a matter of minutes before many of the slick Blairites came out of hiding and found reasons why they might be able to work with Corbyn and his loathsome lefty principles after all. So while I've been happy for them to be off our screens with their middle of the road, politiclone smarminess, it would at least mean there was a bit more choice for cabinet places.

Abbot could be 'entertaining' when appearing on This Week, but she's never inspired confidence when it matters. Though to be fair to her, very few politicians do these days; that's why so many cloak themselves in party mantras and don't stray from the script. Who knows, maybe it's ok for our politicians to be a bit inept, because that gives the civil service more room to nudge policy in a sensible direction.

It's going to be an interesting week, but I'm not expecting any surprises.

 

[h4rm0ny]

Just a reminder, a vote for Labour means that this clueless, racist moron will be in high office.

"Fewer police officers". Not "Less police officers".

Agree with this and I'm a Conservative.

One part of me fancies a change to see what Labour would do.

Well I personally think the UK is in for a pretty rough ride over the next several years for reasons that have nothing to do with who wins. So if Labour get in (still think it's unlikely) that might be to your favour long-term. They'll get the blame and your party is off the hook. Much like the Republican party would have been better off if they'd actually lost this last election. They'd have figured out a way to get rid of Trump (because he's a disaster within the party itself) and the nation would have got to see what a nightmare Hillary was. As it is, the Republican image is ruined for the next decade. So you might not be wrong to hope you lose this election.

Though you probably wont!

 

[Above&Beyond]

Abbott is stealing a living. Her and Corbyn are about the worst political duo Labour have ever produced. Makes Milliband look like JFK.

 

[Nitefly]

You really think Abbot and May are on the same level, i'm weeping.

They are both bad for different reasons.

Abbott falls down because she refuses to admit when she doesn't know what she is talking about, which undermines anything else she has to say.

May on the other hand can handle herself far better as demonstrated by her questions on question time but her policies or lack thereof are mostly empty and can be summed up as "we'll be good". Their baffling march against the internet / encryption seems like absolute nonsense.

Fortunately it's not Abbott vs May. If it was it would be a landslide for May.

I cannot vote conservative this time around. The question is do I want conservatives out... in which case I'll have to vote labour. If I'm voting on policies it'll probably be for the lib dems.

Edit - how did I type biscuits!! Silly phone

 

[Rroff]

If, and it's a huge if, Labour were to gain power, it would be a matter of minutes before many of the slick Blairites came out of hiding and found reasons why they might be able to work with Corbyn and his loathsome lefty principles after all. So while I've been happy for them to be off our screens with their middle of the road, politiclone smarminess, it would at least mean there was a bit more choice for cabinet places.

Abbot could be 'entertaining' when appearing on This Week, but she's never inspired confidence when it matters. Though to be fair to her, very few politicians do these days; that's why so many cloak themselves in party mantras and don't stray from the script. Who knows, maybe it's ok for our politicians to be a bit inept, because that gives the civil service more room to nudge policy in a sensible direction.

It's going to be an interesting week, but I'm not expecting any surprises.

Ability to perform well on the spot on camera isn't necessarily a good indicator of their ability to manage the country - though increasingly it is required when dealing with affairs.

 

[Caged]

I'm not sure that the slow move to interview styles where people try and bait the interviewee for the purpose of a highlights reel that will get lots of retweets is actually doing anything to inform the public, which is surely the point of the news, though increasingly it seems like media outlets want to produce content that people who already agree with them can feel good about parroting. I accept that it's a direct result of politicians moving increasingly towards giving complete non-answers to even the simplest questions, but it would be nice to try and roll this one back.

 

[Hiijinx]

8:30 mark. Finally someone with the backbone to talk about it!

 

[JohnnyG]

I'm afraid it never ends. In the grim darkness of the far future... there is only Abbot.

From today?! Juicy from 3 mins.

Regardless of any political views how can any party elevate someone like that to such a prominent position
The majority of politicians have their faults but she is utterly incapable.

 

[Greebo]

Unless they are, and the polls are wrong (some of them)

Who knows...

There is wrong and polls have never been 24 points wrong before. You have to remember when this GE was called. The Tories had a 24 point lead and there was a reasonable chance to get the Labour Party under 150 seats and a chance of the Tories getting the biggest majority ever in our history. Even if the polls are wrong, that is not going to happen now.

 

[Greebo]

But as we have seen before - the part of the population that have been called horrible names for the last few weeks will quietly turn up on polling day and put an X in the Cons box. Same thing happened on Brexit and the last GE

Dont get me wrong I think the Cons have lost quite a few voters but there will still be a few % out there who wont want to say they are voting conservative. Looking at Facebook there is some bad stuff going round in support of Labour

Err I think you have that the wrong way round. It's the labour voters who have been called names and ridiculed. When I dared say something negative about the Tories recently one of my friends called me a leftie c word. The Tories have run an anti person election and just concentrated on the negatives of labour. Look where that got them in Brexit.

In this GE the labour vote is just like the leave vote.

 

[Greebo]

It's disgraceful, isn't it. People who vote conservative are labelled evil, truly ridiculous

Where? Lol. All I ever see is people who are supporting Labour getting derision and called names, even on here.

 

[LabR@t]

Ability to perform well on the spot on camera isn't necessarily a good indicator of their ability to manage the country - though increasingly it is required when dealing with affairs.

But she is a thick racist bigot?

 

[Nitefly]

I'm not sure that the slow move to interview styles where people try and bait the interviewee for the purpose of a highlights reel that will get lots of retweets is actually doing anything to inform the public, which is surely the point of the news, though increasingly it seems like media outlets want to produce content that people who already agree with them can feel good about parroting. I accept that it's a direct result of politicians moving increasingly towards giving complete non-answers to even the simplest questions, but it would be nice to try and roll this one back.

Yeah, I know what you mean but every time Abbott is given the opportunity to get out of it she tries to act as if she knows what she is talking about and either comes out with something completely nonsensical or completely fails to explain her position.

A move towards more wholesome journalism would be welcome but she is just woefully underprepared / trained for being interviewed.

Regardless of any political views how can any party elevate someone like that to such a prominent position
The majority of politicians have their faults but she is utterly incapable.

Pretty much my thoughts.

But she is a thick racist bigot?

I wouldn't go that far - and yes I have seen the applicable statements from her. I think, again, that she just spouts off without thinking rather than being morally dubious. 'Incapable' seems the best word to describe her.