Poll: Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Mk II
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its the easy option. They're too lazy to do the research of policies and they're history. Just carry on as normal mentality, it doesn't effect me so it doesnt exist.
Clearly the police cuts now appear indefensible, but they will have been assessed and clearly they thought the police force could cope with the cuts, however horrendously ill-judged it looks now. The fact the Tories won't just front up to this and admit it was a bad decision is frustrating, but typical of politics.
As for MI5, they made mistakes assessing the risk of the terrorists over the past months, and innocents have paid the price. In fairness they can't be expected to get it right all of the time; not that it's any comfort really.
For a lot of people its all about money. I was having this discussion last night with my mate. He said basically he doesn't want anymore of his hard earned money spent on scroungers so thats why hes voting Tory.
I did try and point out a few downsides to Tories other policies but he said it didnt matter. All that matters to him is how much per week he has to spend.
Yeah - I can't really be too peeved at the current government for the cuts. One of those 'captain hindsight' points really.
thats a load of hogwash. In the case of manchester and london bridge the scumbags were actually reported to the authorities as a risk and the intelligence service and police did nothing. Chalking it up as a mistake is a disgrace, people lost their fricking lives over this so called mistake which was easily avoidable.
I'm not sure if that's a direct result of the operation of those services rather than a direct result of the cuts. But we can't be sure either way.
I'd hazard it's not a direct result of less officers on 'the beat'.
Reports that the Manchester bomber had been reported turned out to be not true. The only reason GMP knew about him was because of his record of petty crime.
Steady on. All I said was that they can't get it right all of the time - they can't - and that it's no comfort anyway...
Clearly mistakes are being made and it's resulting in these attacks, it needs sorting, but even then it will be difficult to stop these sort of attacks entirely.
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I sort of am because whilst all these cuts to policing and security have been taking place the government has been propping up G4S, a privately owned security company.
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citation needed as that is a potential massive conflict of interest there
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Where is your source for that? You always post stuff with no evidence.
Probably because Momentum members armed with Twitter accounts don't decide who is PM, as much as they wish they could - the British people do.
Opinions aside, what actually happens on friday if the results come in with a hung parliment? Lets sat for example the tories win, but with less than 308 seats. Who do they form a coalition with? Is that the only potential outcome in that scenario? Would they have to team up with the SNP? If SNP turned around and said no, what then? (I assume they would be the only ones with enough seats to tip the balance into a majority?)
Let's be fair, given Corbyn's general attitude to things like this, he'd have been no better. He's more or less said in the past that supporting ISIS is fine.
Maybe there would have been more police, but there would have been mistakes and loopholes elsewhere created by his attitude.
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Tories and SNP will never happen. They hate each other.
If the Tories don't get a majority they're toast IMHO. It will be a Labour minority with SNP support if Labour have too few seats or a Labour-SNP coalition if the two have enough seats together.
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The party that can "command a majority of support in the Commons" would be the government in effect that means getting a Queens Speech passed, while I would expect some kind of Confidence and Supply agreement rather than full out Coalition I believe the SNP would back Labour and possibly the Lib Dems too. If no party can get a Queens Speech passed we would be back at the polls.
So, what happens if Labour and SNP don't have enough seats between them as well? As based on the current yougov polls, that's quite a distinct possibility. Presumably the NI unionists would team up with the cons if they had <18 seats required though?
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