Poll: Poll: Will you be buying a 2080Ti/2080/2070?

[TangoEchoAlpha]

Not mine, credit to the PCMR Twitter feed

As for whether I will buy one or not, I'm not sure. Part of me would like one, part of me is also considering seeing what AMD come up with and moving to them for more open standards support.

 

[easyrider]

Hemce why I ordered


The smart ones jumped on or before the RTX card announcement, sold their cards and preordered.

Short lived or not that 2080/2080Ti is going to have a much better resell value compared to a Pascal card by the time 7nm is announced.

I don’t think that the 2080 will keep its value...no one will buy a used one for 1000 when 7nm hits...

Also if you bought a 1080 ti for £650 and sell it for £450 the residual loss is less...

I bought and sold many many cards over the years...and depending on th3 tech it’s sometimes more savvy to hold on to what you have...if you have a 1080ti it’s still got value even until 7nm hits.

The 2080 I doubt

 

[melmac]

I don’t think that the 2080 will keep its value...no one will buy a used one for 1000 when 7nm hits...

Also if you bought a 1080 ti for £650 and sell it for £450 the residual loss is less...

I bought and sold many many cards over the years...and depending on th3 tech it’s sometimes more savvy to hold on to what you have...if you have a 1080ti it’s still got value even until 7nm hits.

The 2080 I doubt

Yes, I agree with you. I don't see the Turing cards holding their value at all.

 

[Las Vega]

I don’t think that the 2080 will keep its value...no one will buy a used one for 1000 when 7nm hits...

A new 2080 costs £750 not £1000.

Also if you bought a 1080 ti for £650 and sell it for £450 the residual loss is less...

Nah. I can see a 1080Ti going for £400 1 year from now, where as i doubt the 2080 would drop value below £600 in a year.

That means the loss will be greater purchasing a new 1080Ti now, but you pay less upfront.

Different strokes for different folks and all that but personally I get more excited by new GPU releases hence why an EOL 1080Ti for £600 is not a very appealing prospect for me.

 

[muon]

Well a 1080Ti is £600 now anyway.

Secondly a 2080 going from £750 to only £600 over 12 months? Dream on. The only reason Pascal prices haven't fallen is because of memory pricing and mining driving them well above MSRP for so long. For Turing the new memory prices have been built in and are at prices unappealing to miners.

There is an automatic price cut coming as non-FE 2080 cards are supposed to be cheaper than that, and will be once the initial launch demand premiums disappear.

2080Ti : $1199 -> $999
2080 : $799 -> $699

I suspect in the UK that will mean £999 for 2080Ti and £699 for 2080 (if not less).

 

[kevman]

A new 2080 costs £750 not £1000.

Nah. I can see a 1080Ti going for £400 1 year from now, where as i doubt the 2080 would drop value below £600 in a year.

That means the loss will be greater purchasing a new 1080Ti now, but you pay less upfront.

Different strokes for different folks and all that but personally I get more excited by new GPU releases hence why an EOL 1080Ti for £600 is not a very appealing prospect for me.

There is no way of knowing or predicting any of this stuff - the 1080ti is still about the same price as when it launched 15 months ago. Who predicted that????

2080Ti : $1199 -> $999
2080 : $799 -> $699.

Be interesting to see if this reduction hits AIBs - apparently NV is selling to the AIBs at MSRP prices. So they may not follow suit with price cuts.

If NV just want to sell all the cards by themselves now why dont they - is there a law against this or something?

 

[~>Dg<~]

the prices will drop fast. there is no mining backing up high prices and most people dont like the pricing or have a decent 10 series card.which can play any modern title for the next 2-3 years.

there trying it on see who will buy at that price.they will drip feed them out even if got stock to keep high price. hold back watch the prices fall. there is no reason for such a high price apart from greed.they are 1080 and 1080ti replacements yet charging double for it. hold tight one month watch.

also there is warehouse loads of 10 series cards to unload.unless they going to do a burberry and destroy them all to keep new 2000 series cards prices high that means they have to shift them. so cheaper ten series cards available soon. which can play anything for next 2-3 years.unless you at 4k.which 99.9 percent arent.

 

[muon]

Ultimately if you want the latest like many people do, then go ahead and pre-order it (may as well go for the 2080ti). But rationalising that decision on things like better residuals or the idea that it is "confirmed" that the 2080 performs better than the 1080ti is just delusion.

 

[Moments420]

Exactly. Pay a little extra for a performance boost now or buy an EOL 1080Ti for near its MSRP 2 years ago. What makes more sense? Lol.

Now I'm speaking from a completely new build PoV, with no card residuals considered but …. 2080 is 25% more at current prices. I don't think people who care about price would call that a little.

It needs to be at least half that (12.5%) more powerful without it's new features before most people would call it a decent buy tbh (and probably 20% for me personally). The 1080ti is trending down, 2080 might even go up due to stock issues, assuming £550 is where 1080ti will likely settle at an average low after release, that becomes a 36% price difference. You'll still need a 2080ti to get 4k/60 or 1440/144 running flawlessly. Price wise, 1080ti might end up competing with the 2070 and that will be some achievement if the RTX card wins there based off the spec sheet.

With 9700/9900k right around the corner freeing up that £150/200 will be very attractive.

I love new tech so I *hope* the reviews all prove me wrong.

 

[Las Vega]

@muon we'll see, we'll see. I believe I will be right and you will be wrong. £600 for a 1080Ti is a rip off imo. Thats essentially msrp for a 2 year old product and i bet the price of them will drop significantly further after Turing launch, but there is no garuntee Nvidia will intentionally lower Turing prices.

 

[muon]

@muon we'll see, we'll see. I believe I will be right and you will be wrong. £600 for a 1080Ti is a rip off imo. Thats essentially msrp for a 2 year old product and i bet the price of them will drop significantly after 1 year of Turing, but there is no garuntee Nvidia will intentionally lower Turing prices.

What's MSRP got to do with anything?

If the Titan Xp drops to £700, would that suddenly become good buy to you because of discount to MSRP?

Nvidia have already set two tiers of Turing pricing. Like they do with all FE cards. $100 to $200 premium right now.

 

[Safetytrousers]

at 4k.which 99.9 percent arent.

Can you give me a link to your source for that figure?

It seems pretty difficult to get figures but this is from an article written in 2017:
''Adoption of 4K has been slow; five years after the first consumer 4K displays arrived, only around a quarter of all new TVs being shipped are 4K. Last year, that figure was under 20%, which meshes closely with Sony's recently released estimate that 1-in-5 of PS4s being sold at the moment are PS4 Pros. ''
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-06-09-are-4k-enabled-consoles-backing-into-a-niche

while not being close to dominating the market share 20 is a somewhat higher figure than .1
The trend is certainly upwards.

 

[Las Vega]

With 9700/9900k right around the corner freeing up that £150/200 will be very attractive.

I love new tech so I *hope* the reviews all prove me wrong.

Buy a 2700x over the 9900k then put that extra £200+ towards a 2080.

 

[Jokester]

I doubt we’ll see cheaper 10xx cards anytime soon, at least not until AMD release something that forces the price down.

 

[Tythus]

at the moment haha no not for that price chop a couple hundred off and we will talk

 

[BubbySoup]

Facts? I like your crystal ball. Is the 2080 series going to sell well? Are the prices staying that high? Some experts think the prices are so high because of the stock pile of Pascal cards left from the mining craze and that once the Pascal cards sell out the Turing cards will drop in price. Other people are saying that the price is so high because the cards are only going to be available in limited numbers because 7nm cards are coming soon and that's why they released the Ti so early in the lifecycle of this generation of cards.

The first generation of cards with a new tech have always been bad buys. They have never held their value and the second generation has nearly always been faster and cheaper. I don't hold out much hope that the Turing cards will hold up well in resale value at all.

Feel free to quote me in 2 years time when the top tier nVidia card will still be £1000+

These prices are here to stay.

 

[banbom44]

Queue all of the reviewers telling us not to by RTX2080ti now changing tune and dribbling over the 2080ti due to 50% - 30% performance increases over the 1080ti..... Cost will just fade into the background as normal and everyone will take it up the behind again.

I don't think a 30 percent performance increase is worth 1200 quid seen as though 1080ti was 35 percent faster than a 1080 for £700 Jensen has got greedy thinking them silly miners will buy anything at whatever price.

 

[melmac]

Feel free to quote me in 2 years time when the top tier nVidia card will still be £1000+

These prices are here to stay.

The price of the top tier card has been over £1000 for a few generations now, that's not really any kind of prediction on your part.

 

[BubbySoup]

The price of the top tier card has been over £1000 for a few generations now, that's not really any kind of prediction on your part.

Ok, exclude the Titans

2080ti, 3080ti, 4080ti etc etc - they'll all be £1000+ to start

 

[jjgreenwood]

Ok, exclude the Titans

2080ti, 3080ti, 4080ti etc etc - they'll all be £1000+ to start

Only if they release them at the same time as the none ti cards