Porsche Owners Thread - If you own one or just like or hate them! :)

A very nice Cayman R shot past me on the M23 the other day, it sounded amazing :)

After that i started to have a look at some Caymans. I've been set on getting a TTS, but only because I haven't found any alternatives. How would a Cayman compare?

Completely different, one is dull and full of understeer, the other one is a car which is alive and feels more like a small race car designed for the road with handling that is out of this world.

If you enjoy driving, buy the Cayman, its also a great looking car too.

If you just wanna pose and join the Audi dull brigade, buy the TTS.
 
Hi there

This is why a warranty is crucial on a Porsche and those older 996 Turbo's which are now cheap and beyond ability of getting a warranty for, keep them well serviced or you could face this:-

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That was the bill just for the parts with discount! The labour was an additional 7k.

The owner was even under warranty, but Porsche tried to wriggle out of it, but in the end the owner won and Porsche covered the 30k bill.

Not even the Metzger is bullit proof, read full story here:-
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/...6293&nmt=997+turbo+Gen+1+seized+Mezger+engine

Porsche are really sensational to drive, but any ownership should be with eyes wide open as an engine failure or gearbox could cost you more than the car cost. :eek:
 
What do you put it down to then? Are there certain engines or models that are better to own?

Porsche service intervals are too far apart is the general consenus on an older engine.

As Housey's mates car is a track driven GT3 it probably enjoys regular oil changes and the engine is treated with care and used to it's full potential.

My 911 has one of the not so great engines, but I've given it regular oil changes and driven to it's full potential, only Vpower etc. It's engine showing none of the symptoms of issue even after loads of track days, fingers crossed it stays that way.

In short warm them up properly, when warm use the engine to it's full ability within reason, don't make any money shifts, regular oil changes and servicing with good fuel.

Service it only every 20k miles, give it carp fuel, don't warm it up properly, use it for trips to shops or town driving. Then expect it more likely to throw a huge bill. They hate short journeys and not being used regular.

3.4 S is believe to weakest for IMS failure and bore scoring between 1999-2005 if remember, then 3.8 S for same years. 2006-2008 builds got updated IMS but could still suffer bore scoring and do. The 2.7l and 3.6l from same year were better for bore scoring but could still throw the IMS.

The newer DFI engine after 2008/2009 were far more reliable, no IMS so impossible to fail and very unlikely to bore score unless severely miss treated.

The GT3 and Turbo engines are metzger, race derived engine and much stronger, but as the bill above shows can still fail, but less likely. Turbos are a nightmare as so many other things can break and they are all big bills.

997's are still under warranty so have warranty especially if spending 50k or more!
 
The owner of the failed 997 you linked to did all of the above.

I read through the PistonHeads thread. It's interesting how Porsche log the engine usage, MAX RPM's used etc. Although it seems the system is unreliable as proved by an owner & Porsche dealership.

I think it's shocking that despite having a valid warranty, that it's taken 5 months to resolve the issue. Especially given the costs of ownership involved.

His was a metzger engine, my advice is more towards to the older NA water-cooled engines found in the boxsters, caymans and Carreras. :)

The engine logs is unreliable, my engine logs got corrupted due to exhaust being welded as garage never disconnected battery. OPC tried to void my warranty due to saying the ECU had being tampered with or remap. I proved to them a remap does not touch that part of the ECU and they were able to pull the ECU log from each time it had visited them. The logs proved the car went from like 40,000 miles to 250,000 miles based on hours between visits about 6 weeks apart. During that period was when my exhaust had being welded due to bracket snapping.

They then admitted welding on the car around exhaust can on rare occasions corrupt the ECU's log counter for hours and over-revs, they carried out warranty work, but it was a pain. Hence I did not re-knew warranty. I took it to a specialist who said they'd seen the issue before and were able to fix the readings and set them to what they should be.

But yes this logging for over-revs they do to try and get out of warranty is a poor show as it can become corrupted or wrong and it can clearly be changed by individuals who know what they are doing......
 
I'm waiting for my engine to blow up and Porsche to be complete and utter ***** about it, just to confirm that nobody with a soul works at an OPC.

Not that I have any reason to suspect it's got issues, it's a 2007 3.4l so no idea if they are known for having problems. On 70k now without any signs of issues but my journeys tend to be short.

Yes they can, but your warranty so are you bothered? It's a standard car, you don't track it and you stick to service schedule, so what's to worry. :)

If it was not under warranty, then just change the oil every 6k miles instead of 20k, fit a low temp stat and use only Vpower, that way you've done what you can to prevent bore scoring. I did this even with a warranty, I wanted best for my car, I even went as far as upgrading the cooling system with a 3rd radiator as it's proven the engine develops hot spots due to poor cooling design. Extra radiators, lower stat help are proven to help prevent this.

Simon talked about the flaws these engines have, it's dilution of the oil film by fuel mixing with the oil and not getting burnt off on short journeys. Thus reducing oil film and more likely hood of scoring. Hence if your doing short journeys more regular oil changes are a must to prevent this dilution.
 
It's completely under warranty for another 18 months but I've learnt not to trust the OPC with anything recently. Any issues I've had for the last 6 months I've had my own garage check out first as my OPC seem unable to tell the truth.

I think I would seriously be worried if I had to rely on the warranty in the next 3 months.

I found OPC pretty good, ok they were pretty crap when the ECU corrupted, but on a whole they were fine.

Fact is you have a warranty, it's not modified, you have not buzzed then engine or missed shift you would be fine and if they denied a claim they'd eventually have to pay out. Or just use a different OPC.
 
I think they only made 3.6l on 996's, i think a 3.8l was on the newer 997's. I have no warranty on my turbo but the rough figure for an ims failure on a 3.4l was around 1% and 5% for the 3.6l. I will see how i get on as its 2001 so i would have to go aftermarket warranty anyway. I dont believe they are likely to fail (touches wood).

Edit: reading that it sounds like my car has the weaker engine in it, it doesnt its a meztger.

Edit 2: That guy said his engine seized, however if thats due to an oil leak did it just suddenly happen or was he ignoring the warning message that comes up with low oil. I didn't want to read all 30 pages and wondered if you knew all the details?

I think you got it wrong way round, certainly more reports on 3.4l failures than 3.6l it seems.

3.6l was still used in the Carrera none S cars. :)

You have a turbo, its a Metzger and a superb engine, the chance of failure on that engine is like below 1% I think, so don't worry about it, just drive it and enjoy it. :)

I've stopped worrying about mine, I drive it, enjoy it and maintain it to a level well above what Porsche recommend, basically more oil changes, let it warm up before revving it hard and fill only with Vpower along with my additional engine cooling modifications. :)
 
Bad times this morning, start the car up and get the battery/generator warning light come on. That's not good, thought i'd try to see if it was just a temp thing so drove round the block to see if the voltage would pick up after the initial start up, nothing just kept dropping and dropping :(

Washed the car yesterday which reading online looks as though some water may have got into the alternator area, and it could be the alternator (hopefully worse case) or the voltage regulator. Old man is going to take it apart tomorrow for me and go down and get it looked at by an auto electrician. Hope it's not too bad!

Exactly how mine went m8, washed it like I always do, couple of days later, generator fault, whatever you do don't continue driving like I did, because if yours is a fly by wire when it goes, it leaves you stranded.

Mine unfortunately had to have the alternator replaced as the voltage regulator cheaper fix was no use for mine, so a reconditioned alternator and I think it was £380 or £480 later. Rip off money, I did not try shopping around as I got recovered to a specialist so paid the price, plus Porsche wanted closer too £1000, lol.

Still its just a Bosch unit and no doubt used on other cars where it can be had for sub £100, so shop around, also pretty damn easy to fit and install too, airbox out, belt off and you've got access, anything in the way, just remove that too and then reverse. :)

Good luck!
 
I done about 200 yards, didn't want to, if it is dead I will be taking it to Porsche as it is less than 3 years old and see if they will make a contribution! Hope it is only the regulator, don't really need the cost of the alternator, but at least I can do it myself if it is!

Just found reconditioned on design911 for £272 for a Bosch unit!

Not a bad price, did I miss something then? Last time I could swear you had a 996 Targa, you got a new car now? If so please do show or link me as I clearly missed it. :(
 
Thank you, it's not like I'm never going to hoon it but I work an awful lot and I just fancied one so thought that the 2.5 would be sufficient, like I said I've had higher performance cars but it's not about straight line speed for me anymore.

Irrelevent of the engine, its still got Boxster mid-engine car handling. :)
 
I don't see the complaints around the engine feels nippy!

Depends what your used too, the chassis can handle a lot more power with ease.

For me one of my favourite drives was the Boxster 2.9 DFI, not the most powerful but a rather joyful engine as it simply loves to be thrashed over and over. :D
 
Hi there

Updated my rear lights to 997.2 design with some OEM styled dectanes, I love LEDs and a good buy at £300 second hand, couple of pics taken tonight, literally take five minutes to fit:-

Before

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After

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997.2 and newer moved to LEDs, got them for mine as I prefer the look and gives it a more modern look. :)
 
looks very nice.

I started looking at 991's now, But I am really struggling to see the value in an extra £30k over my car (which is only a 2011) I would love to get into a 991 but they seem to be holding their value very well at the moment.

Any Idea when the 991.2 is due?

To be fair these 991's holding price has done great things for us with 997's, so don't complain too much. ;)
No idea on a 991.2 though, I mean could they really extract any more power or make them any more faster?
 
Hmm you know this will void your warranty?

Yep, Porsche will not review warranty with that in place, even though its a better battery. :(

If your going for warranty again and need a battery I will swap you with my one at next RR meet or something, if that helps?


My LED lights, left rear, keeps going out with the dash saying left tail light failure. :(

I am thinking because they are LED they consume so little power which makes the car think not functioning and as such disables it.

I am gonna try wiring in some 6 ohm 50W resistors to try and fool the cars systems and as such not shutting down the rear left tail light, if this works I shall do it to both sides. :)

Just went with these from ebay:-
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251306785271?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
 
As I'm only likely to do another 2k-3k over the next few months in the car before I sell it I'm hoping to not need to go back to my local OPC and this wouldn't be a worry.

I can't see how they can deny a claim for say a gearbox if I fitted an equal battery a month before or something. I think the 911 battery is different to the Boxster anyway so not sure Gibbo's would work / fit.

I'll be glad when I don't need to rely on my local OPC and can go to my local favourite garage for work.

Need to start considering what to get really!

Stop worrying!
The battery won't void a claim, but they won't refresh your warranty with it in place, even though its better than the crap Porsche sells for twice the money.

Take a photo of your battery and post it up, if its same spec/size I am happy to swap as I won't be getting a warranty on mine again, remap, different throttlebody, exhaust system, GT3 suspension, LOL.

Though they did warranty work on mine with GT3 suspension, steel turbo brakes, larger throttle body in place, though I did remove the remap and cats before going for warranty work. ;)
 
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