Porsche Owners Thread - If you own one or just like or hate them! :)

There is no way the roof is 100kg, I can lift mine onto the car on my own and maneuver it into place. I will weigh it but my guess is something around half that weight. In fact i was really surprised by how light it was.


I just checked and it weighs, 33kg or 73lb.

The roof is 33kg, is that on the 911? Jesus what is it made out of. :D

M3 roof is 12kg, CSL roof is like 3.5-4kg (carbon fibre).
 
This has to be the best GT3 deal on the market:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifi...iled-service-history-porsche-warranty/6724668


Due to the mileage it really a great price.

Of course I'd be worried about engine longevity as a daily with 150k miles, though it is the race proven and super strong metzger I believe.

Also the ceramics, if its still on originals, by now they could be due for a replacement which does not come cheap, budget around 10k.

But I have to say I am a little tempted, would have to be a keeper for life though, more an investment car and well hope the engine keeps going, lol.

Does have an OPC warranty until 2017.
 

They are superb!
Good to see some Porsches do actually depreciate and don't just explode in price.

My only criticism of the 981 chassis and Boxsters in general, but more so 981 is within an hour your pushing it to the limits and beyond, its a bit to easy to drive very hard, but that could also be a fantastic applause of how great handling chassis it is, they drive like E46 M3's you can drive them incredibly hard and they are easy on the limits, still fun at low speeds as well. :)
 
Housey, new GT3, its time I think. ;)

Seriously more comfort, more sport, pretty much 500HP, my god sounds like an RS without the price and a little less in your face looks, really blends aggression with clean looks.

RS was my dream car, but as I'd be using daily I would buy one of these instead, but sorry to say, I'd go with PDK, simply because the system is so damn good! :)
 
991 GT3 is a lovely car but i'd be very careful with them, depending on which engine revision as it could be ticking time bomb.

I'd expect the 991 GT3 prices to drop now, but the question will be by how much and also assume that RS and R values will now soften with this new car.

The first gen 991 GT3 got an engine issue? Not like the gen 1 997's where they are guaranteed to consume themselves at some point is it? :(
Suppose on the flip side if 991.1 GT3 values get hammered could be an opportunity for me to get into one if they come sub 100k in 2-3 years. :)
 
Yes, the earlier versions of the engine where replaced under warranty. However, it appears that subsequent revisions also seem to have a problem with the engine not supplying enough oil pressure in some conditions and there has been revisions to the camshaft lobes. There is a lot more information all the changes on RennList but I believe they are up to revision G and there are still a number of reports of misfires with that engine.

The other important change as discussed very heavily on PH, the warranty is no longer valid if the car is driven on a track and its goes wrong. A new engine for one of these cars is in the region of 40-60K.


Did I just read that right? You buy your GT3, a car designed by Porsche for the track but if you drive it on track and the engine goes, the warranty is void? Oh dear Porsche! :(

Of course if you money shift it or are banging it on the limiter then yeah, your a numpty and should learn to drive, but if the engine lets go and your driving it correct Porsche should be fixing them!
 
Looking forward to it... just waiting on the final go ahead from finance company.

£30k down, £62k balloon and the rest over 36 months.


May I ask why it was £240,000, it seems really really expensive for a 991 GT3, is it because of colour and low miles m8?

EDIT: Ignore, need my eyes testing, £145,000, not so bad at all considering colour and miles.

Might I ask the monthly payment please?
 
Roughly £1800 / month I'd guess!

I got around £1550, becomes interesting, I've never purchased a car before on the principal that 3yr later you have to still pay a fairly large chunk of cash to own it.

What happens if you buy it, say 50k down, 3yr and then owe 50k at the end? You pay 50k and you own it? What if you do not have 50k? They buy car back or just re-possess it?

A real shame one cannot buy the new GT3, just configured one in Sapphire Miami Blue, came to 120k, so much car for the money and am sure they will go same way with no depreciation and no doubt appreciate. I could drop 50-60k deposit and finance say 30-40k and then owe 30k at end?

No chance of getting one with Porsche and their whole limited numbers production and only letting big spending customers buy, meh! :(
 
The way the product has been described to me is convincing low income people that they can afford cars that they can't, so when they get to the balloon payment at the end, they have to give the car back, and then they are trapped with nothing, and the dealer can entice them into something else insanely profitable for the dealer. When we were purchasing my partners Mini the finance manager fully admitted afterwards that it was a way to trap people, we spent £13k on a Mini Cooper S, 8 down and 5 on finance or something (cant remember now) and the new Mini had just been released, the amount of sales pressure not to go second hand and use that £8k to get a "brand new one! OMG WOW, CHEAP FINANCE AND SWAP IT FOR ANOTHER NEW ONE IN 3 YEARS TIME!" was ridiculous.

Yeah when I got Mustang I paid over 2/3 cash and financed rest over 2yr, I've paid the Mustang off early though so if I decide to sell it tomorrow I can with no hassle, its worth around 40k in current state, though no plan to sell just yet, of course if I could 100% get myself into a GT3 I would be seriously tempted to sell Mustang and M3, drop 60k on GT3, finance rest with a balloon of 30k at end and do the finance over 3yr, could save 10k per year and still enjoy a GT3 and they are investments too, hence why its near impossible to get one. :(

Right now can't really think of any other car I want, maybe a 991 Turbo as they are around 100k but I think I'd bore real quick as way too easy to drive quick, at least GT3 has real character and is an event even at 10mph and sounds awesome.

Shall see but right now only thing kind of tempting me away from Mustang is 991 GT3 or 991 TT, would not mind a GT4 but I'd also miss 500+ horses.
 
Being to Porsche Factory Leipzig today working with Porsche Design team, cannot say what but it's computer related but under NDA.

On the flip side I got to use their testing circuit and drive every variant of Carrera and Boxster/Cayman and feel how the different options effect car.

Was on my own so thrashed the hell out of them, one rule you can use sport plus but you do not turn PSM off otherwise you come in.

Epic fun and I want a 911 again but not these new Turbo versions, the NA is better full stop for me but these new ones steer and go very well. :)
 
991.1 C2S and C4S are they around 60k now for decent spec?

Quite tempted after yesterday's driving of the range to get one of the last NA 911's :)

How are the values on 991.1 since the Turbo 991.2 was released is 991.1 going down or up in price since new generation announcement.

Don't get me wrong the new cars drove freaking awesome but the Turbo lag and sound track was upsetting though lag in 911's was barely noticeable, though it was an issue in the Boxster/Cayman but equally when they came on boost they had a old school feel and howl to them, still prefer NA though but saying that throttle balance mid corner was the best I've ever experienced for turbocharged motors, so smooth and progressive like NA.

A C4S with nice options is tempting I just worry would not have enough power and don't anyone say Turbo because they are just a bit boring, way way to easy!
 
mate had a 997.1 4s that went pop that I didn't know about until recently when I mentioned I was getting a 911, fortunately for him Porsche did 50% contribution, but wonder if its a Porsche rebuild its just going to happen again at some point? Hes since sold the car

Had I done a bit more research and heard about the hartech rebuilds i'd probably have gone for a 997.1 and saved a load of cash, having said that I do like the subtle differences of the .2 and will probably be more desirable come resale time, plan is in 3-4 years swap it for a 991 :) all being well of course


Now I've driven the 991.2 Carrera's with varying specification oh my god, what cars they are. The one with PDCC and PASM along with the rest of the option list ticked seemed just insanely capable and more grip than one could ever want, almost to good as it never wanted to play, just grip and more grip.

Really look at 991.1 C2S/C4S now, would just like more power NA which seems to only come in GTS format which are 90k which seems a lot of money for a used Carrrera, same money gets an AMG GTS or a R8 V10 Plus which are super cars by comparison. All three of one have their unique abilities making all three desirable, wished I could just have all three, but dropping even 80-90k on a car is a huge amount of cash and I'd need a good 20-30k on finance.
 
At 40k find a nice Carrera 997.2 PDK, lovely to drive, very safe for the Mrs and huge fun for when you want to drive it. 40k should get you a low mileage well spec clean example.

Alternatively a 997.2 C2S manual/PDK but will be higher mileage and not the best example at 40k, best to shop around.
 
Thats what im leaning towards. The problem is my turbo is at 99,000 miles ad theres a stigma in this country on cars over 100,000 for some historic reason. Obviously whichever i go for needs PSE, i miss exhaust noise too much in my car.

Dumb people! A well maintained engine at 100k will be as good as the day it had 1000 miles on it, if maintained. People should be more worried about the suspension, the shocks will be shot, all the bushes throughout the car worn. The engine in the turbo if maintained will do another 100k, cars don't suddenly die at 100k and most of the time the engines have lost no power unless of course they are an Audi. ;)

Suspension is the issue at such miles!
When I got the M3 I replaced all the bushes, for factory OEM, what an improvement, says it all! :)
 
I'd be amazed if a 100k 996 is still on its original suspension anyway! I'd be wary of a high mile 996 due to suspension and interior wear, but a little TLC would keep the price decent. The two on pistonheads with >100k on them are priced in excess of £35.


I think you'd be surprised, every part of the suspension will need replacing ideally, dampers, bushes etc. At which point its probably just best to fit decent coilovers and fresh o.e. bushes all round.
 
Agreed, my 996 suspension was awful, had Ohlins installed all round and setup like a GT2, so much better :D

Same on M3 for me, just replacing all the bushes with o.e. transformed the car. Some bushes are shot after as little as 30k, good dampers only last 60k, some less so. As long as an engine is well maintained they tend to be least of issues, of course any known wear and tear items should be replaced for longevity.
 
Had Center Gravity do the work and they also swapped some arms to the 997 variants which are much beefier but direct swap, the stock shocks had been used with lowering springs before I purchased it, they had smashed the bump stops to oblivion, the difference in ride quality after was night and day. When it comes to mods, tires, brakes and suspension are first on my list :)

Chris is one very talented guy there. :)

I fitted coilovers to both the M3 and Mustang. I also went with the most hardcore coilovers for true track work with Clubsports yet both cars also improved in ride quality on the road. :)

Good quality coilovers are superb, even the full on track stuff damps better on road. :)
 
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