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Competition of one... Nvidia. Who aren't so much competition as the school yard bully standing over the puny runt beating the crap out of them, laughing as they do so.

I'd say nVidia are more like the boxer who keeps winning fights who everyone wants to see lose.

Bully? AMD put themselves in the position they are, not nVidia.
 
I'd say nVidia are more like the boxer who keeps winning fights who everyone wants to see lose.

Bully? AMD put themselves in the position they are, not nVidia.

And Amd is like rocky who disappears for ages and everyone loves them and wants them to win and when they come out of hiding they demolish the opponent :)
 
And Amd is like rocky who disappears for ages and everyone loves them and wants them to win and when they come out of hiding they demolish the opponent :)

Demolish?

Don't know where you've been the past few years but there's been no demolitions from either side.

Like Floyd Mayweather?

Does that make AMD Manny Pacquiao?

Yup.
 
Let's look at the behaviour of Intel & Nvidia and tell me if it contributed to AMD's position today:

Intel:

-proven to have cheated on benchmarks at a crucial time when AMD were cementing a lead
-locked AMD out of OEMs, got off with a slap on wrist (years later after the damage was done, as usual)

NV:

-uses pcper as a cipher to run hit pieces on frametimes, coolers, early model async monitors
-cheated on benchmarks (overtesselation, too many incidents to name)
-forced devs to remove dx10.1
-locked AMD out of AA in Batman
-gameworks causes mysterious situations where a midrange NV card massively outperforms top end AMD
-gameworks itself

I think bullying definitely applies to Intel's OEM thing and NV's usage of pcper at a time when AMD is already suffering.
 
I wouldn't agree with the pc per thing and frame times. Fact is websites were shouting at amd for a long time (literally years) to get the hitchy feel of crossfire sorted out and it fell on deaf ears. It wasn't until a way that could actually meter the gameplay not being smooth and being able to chart it emerged that amd got the thumb out and finally fixed the issue. With the end result being better latency than nvidia sli in some scenarios.

Whether nvidia was involved with the pc per technique i've no idea, but in the end it benefited crossfire users, just dumb that amd had to wait to be backed into a corner to fix it instead of listening to review sites and their end users. :mad:
 
The problem AMD face, is they just don’t have the financial clout of the other two. If they where bought out by say Samsung, they would have cash to spend on projects such as 'AMD Works', They could form partnerships with Dev's give them free tools, expertise etc.. which interns promotes their GPU's and turns in to sales.

All this recent talk of AMD cutting RND, is not good. They just cannot compete financially.

It's bad for us, as it means Intel stand still and Nvidia rip us off.
 
Let's look at the behaviour of Intel & Nvidia and tell me if it contributed to AMD's position today:

Intel:

-proven to have cheated on benchmarks at a crucial time when AMD were cementing a lead
-locked AMD out of OEMs, got off with a slap on wrist (years later after the damage was done, as usual)

NV:

-uses pcper as a cipher to run hit pieces on frametimes, coolers, early model async monitors
-cheated on benchmarks (overtesselation, too many incidents to name)
-forced devs to remove dx10.1
-locked AMD out of AA in Batman
-gameworks causes mysterious situations where a midrange NV card massively outperforms top end AMD
-gameworks itself

I think bullying definitely applies to Intel's OEM thing and NV's usage of pcper at a time when AMD is already suffering.

Now do one of all the times AMD plays the same shady game.

They're all as bad as each other.
 
The thing that always makes me laugh about AMD is their Gaming elvoled titles which often end up with fantastic 4 way SLI support.

Now if only NVidia could do the same with the games they support which often end up with rotten 4 way SLI support.:D
 
Gaming Evolved titles tend to work fantastic across all platforms. Tomb Raider and Alien: Isolation being two good examples.

Yeah sadly. AMD should do the same as nv used to. Make their games run crappy on NV.
Now its NV games run (fairly) well on NV and crappy on AMD, AMD games run good on both. Many people think this is because NV is so good it can run all games and AMD can't, while this is not the case.
 
I hope this comes out soon. I rather fancy getting a second 980 GTX for sli but not at current prices.

Nvidia needs some god damn competition because I want to see £250 980's by the summer :p. It has been over 6 months now and still no answer from AMD.
 
You be lucky to see them new below £350, ever.

They will easily go below £300 once they become old stock/old models! You could get the last of the 680's for not much more than £200 when the 700 series came out. 780Ti's which had a higher RRP than the 980 when first released have been sold for £250 recently as well.
 
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You would have to be quick though with no guarantee of getting the card you want as they seem to go EOL pretty fast and those few remaining hold their price as people that need them for SLI are prepared to pay.
 
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