Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

[SiDeards73]

Isnt the TDP on this 395x2 the same as the 295x2? 500w? also as pointed out, HBM uses a lot less power than GDDR.

Anyhow i was under the impression the dual gpu version was aimed towards the VR market, something to do with the way its configured to run a lense on each gpu or something.

 

[Kaapstad]

Don't we all. well, maybe not all.

As for the TDP, i think it can be done, moving from 16 GDDR5 IC's to 4 Stacked should shave off 30 Watts alone.

It is not a genuine slide though, if you check out the err memory clocks lol.

Who knows what HBM will clock at but I am pretty sure it won't be the same as the Hawaii cards using GDDR5.

Check out the boost clock as well, that looks very familiar too.

 

[humbug]

It is not a genuine slide though, if you check out the err memory clocks lol.

Who knows what HBM will clock at but I am pretty sure it won't be the same as the Hawaii cards using GDDR5.

Check out the boost clock as well, that looks very familiar too.

HBM is no different in terms of memory clocks, 1250Mhz looks fine, an initial rumour had them at 1000Mhz, both are acceptable

Boost clocks? similar to what? the 295X2 is 1018Mhz.

These are 950Mhz to 1000Mhz, thats not actually been done before.

One other thing on power consumption, AMD could probably get another 30 watt off by not slapping so many volts on their GPU's.

I have had 4 GCN Cards and every single one of them was hugely overvolted, the last one would run 1200Mhz after undervolting it.

This 290 so far i have -19mv and still running 1050Mhz, the bloody thing doesn't even get past the high 50c's no matter what i do to it. its so cool and quiet like that.

A lot of AMD's 'higher' power consumption is that ^^^^^

 

[DavidS14]

Exclusive: According to our industry sources, AMD has a few surprises in store for us when it comes to the Radeon R9 390X, and the other GPUs that will arrive with the Radeon 300 series.

Our source wouldn't elaborate, but they did say that the new Radeon R9 390X will arrive with specifications and possibly features that are different to what the rumors currently suggest. We've reported that the Radeon R9 390X would come with two versions; the 4GB and 8GB products with GDDR5 or High-Bandwidth Memory (HBM1) from SK Hynix. But, we've heard from other industry sources not long ago that there would be tight stock when the 390X launches, which could be caused by yield issues on HBM1. We've also reported that the R9 390X would arrive as a watercooled version, but now we're getting new information.

Something interesting that our source said, was that if HBM1 provides what it on paper should provide very easily, "NVIDIA are in trouble". Now, for what we know, there are only a few launches from NVIDIA for this year. First, the rumored GeForce GTX 980 Ti, which will be a cutdown GM200 GPU, the same found on the Titan X. Second, there's also news of NVIDIA allowing add-in board (AIB) partners to use aftermarket coolers on the Titan X, which will see a big injection of speed from Titan X cards from the likes of MSI, ASUS, and more.

The GTX 980 Ti from NVIDIA could be interesting, as it will most likely provide users with Titan X like performance, with 6GB of VRAM. According to the rumors, AMD should have either 4GB or 8GB of HBM1, and if our sources are right with the promised performance of HBM1, could NVIDIA really be in "trouble"?

AMD can't surprise and be on a smaller process, with 28nm the current slab NVIDIA and AMD have used with their latest cards. No one is ready for mass production of 14nm for GPUs, so maybe we're going to see a 28nm-based card with HBM1, and some surprising performance benefits. Mix this in with the Fiji XT and Fiji VR architectures, and a 4096-bit memory bus. If we're getting 640GB/sec+ of memory bandwidth, and some added performance from Fiji, AMD could have a real big winner on its hands.


HBM1 has bandwidth of around 640GB/sec compared to cards that are averaging 300GB/sec or so right now, with HBM2 promising up to 1.2TB/sec, or 1200GB/sec. Double what HBM1 is promising, and up to four times the memory bandwidth of the average Radeon R9 290X or GeForce GTX Titan X from today. The last time we saw HBM2 was at NVIDIA's GPU Technology Conference, with a beautiful HBM2 wafer on display by SK Hynix.

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/44771/amd-surprises-store-upcoming-radeon-300-series/index.html

 

[Martini1991]

Nvidia in trouble.
Yeah right.

Just wish we'd actually the 390X stuff now so we can cut the BS.

 

[SiDeards73]

HBM is no different in terms of memory clocks, 1250Mhz looks fine, an initial rumour had them at 1000Mhz, both are acceptable

Boost clocks? similar to what? the 295X2 is 1018Mhz.

These are 950Mhz to 1000Mhz, thats not actually been done before.

One other thing on power consumption, AMD could probably get another 30 watt off by not slapping so many volts on their GPU's.

I have had 4 GCN Cards and every single one of them was hugely overvolted, the last one would run 1200Mhz after undervolting it.

This 290 so far i have -19mv and still running 1050Mhz, the bloody thing doesn't even get past the high 50c's no matter what i do to it. its so cool and quiet like that.

A lot of AMD's 'higher' power consumption is that ^^^^^

I run my 290 Tri-X at stock clocks but undervolted by -50, runs absolutely fine.

 

[SiDeards73]

Nvidia in trouble.
Yeah right.

Just wish we'd actually the 390X stuff now so we can cut the BS.

I agree totally, all these "nvidia will be in trouble" statements are just childish and nonsensical, Nvidia wont be in trouble, they have too many consumers who only buy their products, however i do feel AMD may sway a few more consumers to the red side if the 390X etc is decent.

Also Nvidia will be switching to HBM next year, so any advantage AMD get by releasing it early will soon be null and void once Nvidia join the HBM party and we will be on HBM 2 by then.

 

[Orangey]

Is this the most hyped GPU ever?

I think you would have to go back quite a few years.

 

[Kaapstad]

HBM is no different in terms of memory clocks, 1250Mhz looks fine, an initial rumour had them at 1000Mhz, both are acceptable

Boost clocks? similar to what? the 295X2 is 1018Mhz.

These are 950Mhz to 1000Mhz, thats not actually been done before.

One other thing on power consumption, AMD could probably get another 30 watt off by not slapping so many volts on their GPU's.

I have had 4 GCN Cards and every single one of them was hugely overvolted, the last one would run 1200Mhz after undervolting it.

This 290 so far i have -19mv and still running 1050Mhz, the bloody thing doesn't even get past the high 50c's no matter what i do to it. its so cool and quiet like that.

A lot of AMD's 'higher' power consumption is that ^^^^^

It is a straight rip off copy of the Hawaii specs.

No HBM won't be running at 1250mhz on the 390X.

 

[DavidS14]

Is this the most hyped GPU ever?

I think you would have to go back quite a few years.

Reminds me of the heady days of 8800GTX (not saying I still have one as my backups backup )

 

[Bonjour]

The GeForce FX was ridiculously hyped, then turned out to be pants.

 

[ALXAndy]

I agree totally, all these "nvidia will be in trouble" statements are just childish and nonsensical, Nvidia wont be in trouble, they have too many consumers who only buy their products, however i do feel AMD may sway a few more consumers to the red side if the 390X etc is decent.

Also Nvidia will be switching to HBM next year, so any advantage AMD get by releasing it early will soon be null and void once Nvidia join the HBM party and we will be on HBM 2 by then.

If you look at them as an overall company they are most certainly in trouble.

The only thing they have that sells well is their GPU sector. They've continually tried to make other products which are all costing them money only to see them flop. I don't even see a Shield thread here on OCUK, let alone people who own them.

Then there was Shield tablet, they have absolutely no chance against Samsung and now they have their Shield console which has only really made people laugh.

The PC market is a shrinking one. So is the enthusiast sector of it. If Nvidia continue they will no doubt end up in trouble if then can't find another avenue to make revenue.

And that's true of all PC part manufacturers. This is why AMD are trying so desperately to come up with products that can be used elsewhere and why they have invested so much money and resources into their APUs.

Now I'm not saying AMD are not in trouble. They are. But if Nvidia were all fine, dandy and happy they would not keep trying to come up with a product for the mobile/tablet market.

A few people on OCUK buying Titan X is nowhere near enough to keep a lavish company like that afloat.

 

[Gerard]

The GeForce FX was ridiculously hyped, then turned out to be pants.

2900xt also had a lot of hype and turned out to be "meh". Can't recall what actually happened with that, i remember reading something about the process node it needed not being ready and changes to the direct x spec.

Really the only people hyping the 3 series are people on forums, amd have said nothing about it hype or otherwise.

 

[Kaapstad]

I think the thing to remember when we see these so called performance/spec leaked slides is the 390X is totally different to anything that has gone before as it is next gen and uses HBM. This means that it's specs won't be anything like a 290X for example.

If we compare the differences between an original Titan and Titan X some of the specs are very different. The differences between the old 290X and the 390X are going to be a lot wider than the Titan example I mentioned above.

When we do get to see the real specs for the 390X I think they will be totally different to anything most people are expecting on this or any other forum.

The one thing I do expect the 390X to be is very special in terms of innovation and performance.

Also having HBM means that the 390X will be the first of the real next gen cards regardless of what node (28nm) it comes on, this will be a real first for AMD.

As for NVidia and the GM200 cards including the TitanX, they are old hat and will be the last of the old gen of cards.

 

[Bonjour]

I think I was taking a hiatus in the realm of Mac at the time of the 2900xt.

 

[ALXAndy]

I think the thing to remember when we see these so called performance/spec leaked slides is the 390X is totally different to anything that has gone before as it is next gen and uses HBM. This means that it's specs won't be anything like a 290X for example.

If we compare the differences between an original Titan and Titan X some of the specs are very different. The differences between the old 290X and the 390X are going to be a lot wider than the Titan example I mentioned above.

When we do get to see the real specs for the 390X I think they will be totally different to anything most people are expecting on this or any other forum.

The one thing I do expect the 390X to be is very special in terms of innovation and performance.

Also having HBM means that the 390X will be the first of the real next gen cards regardless of what node (28nm) it comes on, this will be a real first for AMD.

As for NVidia and the GM200 cards including the TitanX, they are old hat and will be the last of the old gen of cards.

The issue is going to be Titan X. For all we know AMD could have had the 390x all nailed down and buttoned up, only for the Titan X to come out.

They may well have had to go back to the drawing board. AMD were quite vocal a few months back about the 390x and we even had a couple of pics of prototype coolers. Since Titan X they've puckered up tighter than a gnat's chuff.

I just hope the 390x is as good as we hoped and that they're not desperately trying to make it faster.

 

[Kaapstad]

The issue is going to be Titan X. For all we know AMD could have had the 390x all nailed down and buttoned up, only for the Titan X to come out.

They may well have had to go back to the drawing board. AMD were quite vocal a few months back about the 390x and we even had a couple of pics of prototype coolers. Since Titan X they've puckered up tighter than a gnat's chuff.

I just hope the 390x is as good as we hoped and that they're not desperately trying to make it faster.

I don't think AMD have got anything to worry about with the TitanX, I think most people will see their choices as

Titan X = £950.00

390X = £600.00

As both cards are likely to have similar performance I can see the 390X flying off the shelves.

 

[Gerard]

They may well have had to go back to the drawing board. AMD were quite vocal a few months back about the 390x and we even had a couple of pics of prototype coolers. Since Titan X they've puckered up tighter than a gnat's chuff.

I just hope the 390x is as good as we hoped and that they're not desperately trying to make it faster.

So amd released pics of prototype coolers and were talking about an unreleased product? Are you sure that was official info or other sites taking rumours as fact, i don't remember any of it.

 

[ALXAndy]

So amd released pics of prototype coolers and were talking about an unreleased product? Are you sure that was official info or other sites taking rumours as fact, i don't remember any of it.

There's no way the coolers weren't AMD coolers. So they were either incredibly elaborate fakes or the real thing. I will go with the latter, I believe they are the new coolers, given their likeness to the 295x2 cooler.

What was more telling, however, were the holes for water cooling hoses. That could well mean AMD are battling heat.

In fact the more I think about this the more it feels like Fermi. ATI released a nice, fast, cool card and Nvidia were on the back foot desperately trying to make something of the 480. Only difference with AMD is they don't get the grace to have a second crack like Nvidia did with the 580.

Nvidia went from being the biggest ******s in the world to making the fanboys drool. If the 390x is hot at launch then no matter what they do it will share the same fate as the 290x, which no matter how well it's cooled is still the devil's ballsack to Nvidia fanboys.

 

[Gerard]

There's no way the coolers weren't AMD coolers. So they were either incredibly elaborate fakes or the real thing. I will go with the latter, I believe they are the new coolers, given their likeness to the 295x2 cooler.

What was more telling, however, were the holes for water cooling hoses. That could well mean AMD are battling heat.

In fact the more I think about this the more it feels like Fermi. ATI released a nice, fast, cool card and Nvidia were on the back foot desperately trying to make something of the 480. Only difference with AMD is they don't get the grace to have a second crack like Nvidia did with the 580.

Nvidia went from being the biggest ******s in the world to making the fanboys drool. If the 390x is hot at launch then no matter what they do it will share the same fate as the 290x, which no matter how well it's cooled is still the devil's ballsack to Nvidia fanboys.

I remember the picture doing the rounds of what appeared to be a variation of the 295x2 shroud, still wasn't "official info" and was just a random pic that was leaked online.