Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

ALXAndy · 27 Apr 2015 at 17:35

Gerard said:
I remember the picture doing the rounds of what appeared to be a variation of the 295x2 shroud, still wasn't "official info" and was just a random pic that was leaked online.

The fan was not in the middle, though. It was at the end as you would expect it to be on a single cored card.

As I say though the hose holes do worry me. Why would you put a AIO on a stock card? yeah it would be cooler but it's completely not practical.

Gerard · 27 Apr 2015 at 17:39

ALXAndy said:
The fan was not in the middle, though. It was at the end as you would expect it to be on a single cored card.

As I say though the hose holes do worry me. Why would you put a AIO on a stock card? yeah it would be cooler but it's completely not practical.

Well evga also have a hybrid gtx980 with an aio. Given the choice between amd's usual crap heatsinks that run loud and an aio that runs quiet i'd go with the latter. The lesser of 2 evils i suppose, im fine with an aio on a dual gpu card, but single gpu is pushing it.

ALXAndy · 27 Apr 2015 at 17:42

Gerard said:
Well evga also have a hybrid gtx980 with an aio. Given the choice between amd's usual crap heatsinks that run loud and an aio that runs quiet i'd go with the latter. The lesser of 2 evils i suppose, im fine with an aio on a dual gpu card, but single gpu is pushing it.

It's just a bit extreme though isn't it?

Personally I think AIOs on GPUs should be the norm. My 480 Lightning maxes out at 48c after hours of Valley. Problem is they are not practical in every case on the market, and stock cards really need to be.

Plus there's the cost. You're looking at quite a hefty premium for the cooling.

Gerard · 27 Apr 2015 at 17:45

ALXAndy said:
It's just a bit extreme though isn't it?

Personally I think AIOs on GPUs should be the norm. My 480 Lightning maxes out at 48c after hours of Valley. Problem is they are not practical in every case on the market, and stock cards really need to be.

Plus there's the cost. You're looking at quite a hefty premium for the cooling.

Should be interesting to see how things go, if the 390x needs a 120mm aio then i do wonder what a dual core variation will need. Could they get away with a thicker 140mm rad or would it need a 240mm which would really limit its potential audience.

ALXAndy · 27 Apr 2015 at 17:48

Gerard said:
Should be interesting to see how things go, if the 390x needs a 120mm aio then i do wonder what a dual core variation will need. Could they get away with a thicker 140mm rad or would it need a 240mm which would really limit its potential audience.

A 240mm rad version would go down like the Titanic. Even with a Cosmos 2 I would have terrible trouble trying to mount it without seriously modding the case.

I would surmise that the single core card would use a single thickness rad, whilst the dual core card would use something more akin to the H80.

All pure speculation though, and I really hope they just come vanilla stock coolers. I run my Titan Blacks on air and they are pretty great heat wise. Water cooling GPUs with a custom loop is just stupidly expensive because the blocks cost an absolute fortune and within 6 months your cards plummet in value and the blocks don't work on any other card.

Now if board specs on GPUs was set as a standard and you didn't have to buy the blocks? then no doubt I would have a custom loop in my PC.

Gerard · 27 Apr 2015 at 17:50

Theres the pic of the supposed shroud, does look a bit elaborate to be a fake i suppose. Looked good on the 295x2 and much better than the cheap looking 290 shroud.

http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_displays/amd_radeon_r9_390x_cooler_leaked/1

humbug · 27 Apr 2015 at 17:52

ALXAndy said:
There's no way the coolers weren't AMD coolers. So they were either incredibly elaborate fakes or the real thing. I will go with the latter, I believe they are the new coolers, given their likeness to the 295x2 cooler.

What was more telling, however, were the holes for water cooling hoses. That could well mean AMD are battling heat.

In fact the more I think about this the more it feels like Fermi. ATI released a nice, fast, cool card and Nvidia were on the back foot desperately trying to make something of the 480. Only difference with AMD is they don't get the grace to have a second crack like Nvidia did with the 580.

Nvidia went from being the biggest ******s in the world to making the fanboys drool. If the 390x is hot at launch then no matter what they do it will share the same fate as the 290x, which no matter how well it's cooled is still the devil's ballsack to Nvidia fanboys.

Wasn't that cooler an obvious Photoshop of the 295X2 cooler?

ALXAndy · 27 Apr 2015 at 17:56

humbug said:
Wasn't that cooler an obvious Photoshop of the 295X2 cooler?

Dude even the VRM cooler looks to be in the perfect place.

I dunno man. Maybe in a few month's time you can come back to this and laugh at me but it looks real to me

Ed. The front body of the cooler is longer than the 295x2. The fan hole is obviously at the back and the hose holes are in the middle, not like the X2 at all.

If that is a Photoshop then I know who I want to go over my wedding photos to make me look slimmer

setter · 27 Apr 2015 at 17:59

Hopefully they do come with an improved reference non aio cooler. Price dependent I could end up going AMD this time. At present in waiting to see what the 980ti is like. But I've got an inkling that it will be expensive. My enthoo primo case is quite large, but I wouldn't have space for an aio cooling solution.

humbug · 27 Apr 2015 at 17:59

ALXAndy said:
Dude even the VRM cooler looks to be in the perfect place.

I dunno man. Maybe in a few month's time you can come back to this and laugh at me but it looks real to me

Well you might be right, there was Rumour of a 390X air cooled and 390X Water Cooled "for enthusiasts"

ALXAndy · 27 Apr 2015 at 18:01

setter said:
Hopefully they do come with an improved reference non aio cooler. Price dependent I could end up going AMD this time. At present in waiting to see what the 980ti is like. But I've got an inkling that it will be expensive. My enthoo primo case is quite large, but I wouldn't have space for an aio cooling solution.

Well having seen the Titan X and being on 4k I am actually growing pretty desperate for AMD to launch a GPU that can come within 10% of the TX and at, say, £500 each. I will then wait for them to drop to £400 each and then buy a pair.

I'm doing OK on 4k for now and my monitor is only 60hz so I will only gain 15 FPS but hey, if the price is right count me in.

233 · 27 Apr 2015 at 18:03

Just desperate to see some figures

Needs to totally smash my 280x xfire setup and be around £500 at most to tempt me

Although I fear I'm going to be disappointed

humbug · 27 Apr 2015 at 18:05

233 said:
Just desperate to see some figures

Needs to totally smash my 280x xfire setup and be around £500 at most to tempt me

Although I fear I'm going to be disappointed

290X CF will smash your 280X CF and for £500

setter · 27 Apr 2015 at 18:05

Still only at 1920x1200 for the time being, but hoping to go 2560x1440. From what I've seen so far, the titan x is a good bit ahead of 780 sli which I currently have. The 980ti is rumoured to be basically a cut down vram version if the tx, but if true that the 390 is an 8gb card it could be the better option. Within 10% of tx would suit me fine for a single card solution.

233 · 27 Apr 2015 at 18:09

humbug said:
290X CF will smash your 280X CF and for £500

I'd hope a small single 390x would best my 280x setup then I'd buy a pair and a 4k monitor

humbug · 27 Apr 2015 at 18:12

setter said:
Still only at 1920x1200 for the time being, but hoping to go 2560x1440. From what I've seen so far, the titan x is a good bit ahead of 780 sli which I currently have. The 980ti is rumoured to be basically a cut down vram version if the tx, but if true that the 390 is an 8gb card it could be the better option. Within 10% of tx would suit me fine for a single card solution.

Have been looking at doing that my self, looking at them i realised that a 27" 1440P screen is about £300+ the same price as 28" 4K screens.

Why not just go 4K and run it at 1440P, and 4K where you can.

savagesam117 · 27 Apr 2015 at 18:13

I really hope they don't just release the 390x with an aio cooler. I think they are so ugly. I hope they do the normal version and the aio versions. Or just, make a water cooling block that's less not £70+

They really need to release something about it though.. I'm getting bored

Gerard · 27 Apr 2015 at 18:17

humbug said:
Well you might be right, there was Rumour of a 390X air cooled and 390X Water Cooled "for enthusiasts"

If the reference is liquid cooled theres no doubt that some oem's will have an air cooled variation. Though that being said the air cooled 295 was a turd.

setter · 27 Apr 2015 at 18:36

humbug said:
Have been looking at doing that my self, looking at them i realised that a 27" 1440P screen is about £300+ the same price as 28" 4K screens.

Why not just go 4K and run it at 1440P, and 4K where you can.

Not gonna bother with 4k for the time being, ideally id like a monitor with one of the sync technologies, but as it stands at present this will dictate which gpu camp you will be tied to. Id prefer to have the choice but that remains to be seen.

mururoa · 27 Apr 2015 at 20:19

Stop the press! Some of the rumours rumoured to be wrong!

AMD has surprises in store with its upcoming Radeon 300 series

AMD's Radeon R9 390X rumored to be different from the rumors circling at the moment, but what can we expect?

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Exclusive: According to our industry sources, AMD has a few surprises in store for us when it comes to the Radeon R9 390X, and the other GPUs that will arrive with the Radeon 300 series.

Our source wouldn't elaborate, but they did say that the new Radeon R9 390X will arrive with specifications and possibly features that are different to what the rumors currently suggest. We've reported that the Radeon R9 390X would come with two versions; the 4GB and 8GB products with GDDR5 or High-Bandwidth Memory (HBM1) from SK Hynix. But, we've heard from other industry sources not long ago that there would be tight stock when the 390X launches, which could be caused by yield issues on HBM1. We've also reported that the R9 390X would arrive as a watercooled version, but now we're getting new information.

Something interesting that our source said, was that if HBM1 provides what it on paper should provide very easily, "NVIDIA are in trouble". Now, for what we know, there are only a few launches from NVIDIA for this year. First, the rumored GeForce GTX 980 Ti, which will be a cutdown GM200 GPU, the same found on the Titan X. Second, there's also news of NVIDIA allowing add-in board (AIB) partners to use aftermarket coolers on the Titan X, which will see a big injection of speed from Titan X cards from the likes of MSI, ASUS, and more.

The GTX 980 Ti from NVIDIA could be interesting, as it will most likely provide users with Titan X like performance, with 6GB of VRAM. According to the rumors, AMD should have either 4GB or 8GB of HBM1, and if our sources are right with the promised performance of HBM1, could NVIDIA really be in "trouble"?

AMD can't surprise and be on a smaller process, with 28nm the current slab NVIDIA and AMD have used with their latest cards. No one is ready for mass production of 14nm for GPUs, so maybe we're going to see a 28nm-based card with HBM1, and some surprising performance benefits. Mix this in with the Fiji XT and Fiji VR architectures, and a 4096-bit memory bus. If we're getting 640GB/sec+ of memory bandwidth, and some added performance from Fiji, AMD could have a real big winner on its hands.

HBM1 has bandwidth of around 640GB/sec compared to cards that are averaging 300GB/sec or so right now, with HBM2 promising up to 1.2TB/sec, or 1200GB/sec. Double what HBM1 is promising, and up to four times the memory bandwidth of the average Radeon R9 290X or GeForce GTX Titan X from today. The last time we saw HBM2 was at NVIDIA's GPU Technology Conference, with a beautiful HBM2 wafer on display by SK Hynix.

Read more at http://www.tweaktown.com/news/44771/amd-surprises-store-upcoming-radeon-300-series/index.html