PREPARE YOUR WALLETS: ASUS ROG MATRIX 2080Ti LANDS THIS WEEK!!

[ancientmariner]

Says he/she with a 9900k and a 2080 Hardly bargain basement stuff right there now is it.

The 2080 was a free upgrade after my 1080 died and the 9900k was with a bundle so was significantly cheaper than usual Regardless, the 2080ti is priced obscenely when stacked against any other card, 2080 included.

 

[greatash]

Anybody who normally buys an xx80 card can just buy an xx70 this time.

The 2070 is terrible value though. Its only a little faster than a Vega 56/2060 for near £200 more. and pretty much matches a 1080 for price/performance except you could have got one of those years ago.

I think my 980 cost around £430 when it was the fastest card available bar halo products like Titans.

 

[D.P.]

The 2070 is terrible value though. Its only a little faster than a Vega 56/2060 for near £200 more. and pretty much matches a 1080 for price/performance except you could have got one of those years ago.

I think my 980 cost around £430 when it was the fastest card available bar halo products like Titans.

Same price-performance at the Vega 64 though
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Palit/GeForce_RTX_2070_GameRock_Premium/29.html

 

[Brazo]

The 2070 is terrible value though. Its only a little faster than a Vega 56/2060 for near £200 more. and pretty much matches a 1080 for price/performance except you could have got one of those years ago.

I think my 980 cost around £430 when it was the fastest card available bar halo products like Titans.

Not really. They overclock to a 1080ti and can be had for £450. That’s pretty damn good!

 

[Nasher]

Not really. They overclock to a 1080ti and can be had for £450. That’s pretty damn good!

But you can get a Vega64 for less and overclock that.

 

[WantoN]

Not really. They overclock to a 1080ti and can be had for £450. That’s pretty damn good!

I got my 1080 for £330, and it’s overclocked very well under water. I’d say 1080ti ballpark but I’d have to bench to be sure.

I actually think this a really nice looking card. With the rainbow chunder, transparent plastic and Fischer Price aesthetic of the current gen, it’s really great to see something grown up, aside from the ‘Founder’s Edition’ which is, imo, a beautiful if flawed card.

The price is of course ludicrous, but what did we expect if we enable NV by buying overpriced products. Plus, y’know, ASUS tax.

I actually think those who did/do buy RTX cards will receive a bit of a slap in the face soon. Imo we’ll see the next gen much sooner than many think. It’ll be reworked for 7nm (Low R&D = happy share holders) with a performance boost, actually useful RayTracing, and a more sensible price tag. Probably with a proper stable of RTX games too.

Nvidia need to leave Navi dead in the water before it launches, it threatens the major Warner of the market; mid to low end. What better way than to slash the prices of the current gen, and launch something new and exciting to steal mind share. And what better time to do it than before Navi launches?

Just my tuppence of course; I don’t have a crystal ball. But Jensen’s position is tenuous, in-house ASICS are threatening / have damaged several arms of their business, and the mess that was the RTX launch needs to be swept under the carpet and into distant memory as quickly as possible if he hasany hopes of retaining his leadership.

 

[Brazo]

But you can get a Vega64 for less and overclock that.

But it won’t come close to 1080ti performance. That’s what the vii is for.

 

[Brazo]

I got my 1080 for £330, and it’s overclocked very well under water. I’d say 1080ti ballpark but I’d have to bench to be sure.

I actually think this a really nice looking card. With the rainbow chunder, transparent plastic and Fischer Price aesthetic of the current gen, it’s really great to see something grown up, aside from the ‘Founder’s Edition’ which is, imo, a beautiful if flawed card.

The price is of course ludicrous, but what did we expect if we enable NV by buying overpriced products. Plus, y’know, ASUS tax.

I actually think those who did/do buy RTX cards will receive a bit of a slap in the face soon. Imo we’ll see the next gen much sooner than many think. It’ll be reworked for 7nm (Low R&D = happy share holders) with a performance boost, actually useful RayTracing, and a more sensible price tag. Probably with a proper stable of RTX games too.

Nvidia need to leave Navi dead in the water before it launches, it threatens the major Warner of the market; mid to low end. What better way than to slash the prices of the current gen, and launch something new and exciting to steal mind share. And what better time to do it than before Navi launches?

Just my tuppence of course; I don’t have a crystal ball. But Jensen’s position is tenuous, in-house ASICS are threatening / have damaged several arms of their business, and the mess that was the RTX launch needs to be swept under the carpet and into distant memory as quickly as possible if he hasany hopes of retaining his leadership.

Problem for Navi is that cool running power efficient low-mid range cards already exist. It’s dead in the water.

 

[WantoN]

Problem for Navi is that cool running power efficient low-mid range cards already exist. It’s dead in the water.

Depends on price to performance I suppose, we don’t know their capability yet. I’m not excited about it.

But it won’t come close to 1080ti performance. That’s what the vii is for.

Is this really the case? It was my understanding that Vega64 sat between the 1080 and the 1080ti. If this is the case then an overclocked Vega64 is most definitely close.

 

[NirK]

I see manufacturers are continuing with this trend of "lets see how high we can go before people stop" Please people, just stop, or it will get worse!!... 2k then 3k then beyond!!!

 

[Nasher]

But it won’t come close to 1080ti performance. That’s what the vii is for.

It gets pretty close. The difference is as near as makes no difference in the real world. In some recent games it comes out on top.

 

[Gregster]

Same price-performance at the Vega 64 though
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Palit/GeForce_RTX_2070_GameRock_Premium/29.html

Agreed. The 2070 is a decent card and at a fair price (in todays card prices). The Radeon VII is very pricey, hot and loud and costs a lot.

 

[Gregster]

But you can get a Vega64 for less and overclock that.

If you want to go that route, you can get a GTX 1070 for less and no need to overclock it, as it wins and loses against the Vega 64 game dependent!

 

[JediFragger]

If you want to go that route, you can get a GTX 1070 for less and no need to overclock it, as it wins and loses against the Vega 64 game dependent!

Not anymore, even the Vega56 is catching upto the 1080. And when DX12 gets involved the Vega's are v strong.

 

[Gregster]

Not anymore, even the Vega56 is catching upto the 1080. And when DX12 gets involved the Vega's are v strong.

I did look for recent benchmarks but had to use TPU's older ones.

 

[Nasher]

Vega64 is pretty far ahead of the 1070. Vega56 was usually on par with 1070ti or better even before more recent improvements.

Another thing is Nvidia put caps hard on power, so you can only overclock them up to a point. With Vega you can just keep giving it more and more.

 

[Jim Jervis]

I'd never pay this much for a gpu, 2080ti is just massively, shockingly overpriced. Hope all those who buy it enjoy it though but not for me.

 

[KillBoY_UK]

Nope. Not true. They are selling few and far between.

must be why there are more in use on steam then Vega's

 

[Grim5]

I see manufacturers are continuing with this trend of "lets see how high we can go before people stop" Please people, just stop, or it will get worse!!... 2k then 3k then beyond!!!

It’s the world we will live for now

We’re at the peak of the boom cycle, the next global recession is coming. People are flush with cash and cheap easy to get debt right now. so companies wants to maximise revenue before sales go down.

It’s not justvgraphics card - food, clothes and other electronics like tvs phones etc has all skyrocketed in price

 

[Brazo]

Is this really the case? It was my understanding that Vega64 sat between the 1080 and the 1080ti. If this is the case then an overclocked Vega64 is most definitely close.

On average Vega 64 sits just behind a 1080 at resolutions up to 1440p and just ahead at 4K.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_1660_Ti/28.html