willd58 said:
Why put words in my mouth like that? Why exagerate? Why make things up? What facts are you going on to say this is happening, Bush doesnt deny that its happening it no, but he dismisses it, probably because its a retarded statement.
What facts am I going on to say this is happening - try The Guardian, The Times, BBC News, Sky News, Newsweek, The Economist - even the US news outlets covered water board torture. If you don't know this is happening I don't think you should be discussing this subject.
I'm not putting words in your mouth because you stated "You think its (sic) disturbing to want to protect Freedom and Democracy?"
To me using torturous methods on potentially innocent civilians is more the mandate of a totalitarian regime than a promoter of "Freedom and Democracy". Where was the public vote to allow the Patriot Act through?
No, because its a loaded question.
I also dont think much of international law, the enemy are ignoring it and as such, to fight at there level and protect the innocent people of America and Europe, we have had to go around it. Its a war, there are no rules.
You don't think much of international law? So you're saying that we should just let every country abuse human rights and attack each other at will, hold prisoners without a right to trial, lawyer or basic rights?
Pfft, Amnesty international are a joke.
Great statement. Just to recap, here are the stated aims of Amnesty International:-
AI aims to maintain every human's basic rights as established under the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights. In accordance with this belief, Amnesty works to:
* Free all Prisoners of Conscience (a "POC" is a person imprisoned for the peaceful exercise of their beliefs, which differs somewhat from the typical use of the term political prisoner, but not including persons whose beliefs Amnesty International define as "hate speech").
* Ensure fair and prompt trials.
* Abolish all forms of torture and ill-treatment of prisoners, including the use of the death penalty.
* End state-sanctioned terrorism, killings, and disappearances.
* Assist political asylum-seekers.
* End all forms of violence against women
* Co-operate with organizations that seek to put an end to human rights abuses.
* Raise awareness about human rights abuses around the world.
Hes not the soul leader of america, congress and what not has to ok his actions, and whilst he is a Christian and it irks me quite a bit when he talks about it whilst in political mode, his actions have allways had hard factual reasoning behind them aswell as religious mambo jambo for his Christian fans and non Christians alike.
No he's not the sole leader - but he is the representative for the political policies that his government is pursuing and as such should be far more diplomatic and open to criticism. He acts like a dumb right wing christian redneck who's on a crusade for his own personalised vision of the American Dream. He does not conduct himself as a leader, more like the religious fanatics he claims to be against. Christian fundamentalism is just as dangerous as islamic fundamentalism - perhaps more so as it seems to be more accepted in the western world.
"His actions have always had hard factual reasoning behind them" - Where then are Iraq's WMDs?
