Soldato
You should probably ask for proof of age before asking things like that lol
Prince Andrew not served papers as they were handed to his police security.
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You should probably ask for proof of age before asking things like that lol
Soldato
A payout will be offered and there will most likely be a gagging order, she's already done it once.
Gagging order huh? Didn't know it was that kind of kinky ****.
Uhhhh, because being charged isn’t the be all and end all of whether or not you are guilty of something, doesn’t mean that not being charged means you are therefore guilty. What logic are you guys running, it’s gone faulty?
If I’m wet doesn’t mean it’s raining outside. If I’m not wet doesn’t mean it’s not raining. There are other factors in life. I could be inside and it could be raining outside…
The proof are the accounts from victims, his lying, and the fact that even post conviction for child rape, he was hanging out with a child rapist. That is at the very least, noncery by association. No one should ever be friends with nonces, there is no excuse.
You are such a lazy abuser of nonce labelling and I've said it before.
A sex offender by association?
Either he did or he didn't have unconsentual sex with someone who was of legal age in the UK then later in New York where she wasn't.
The goal of this civil case is a huge amount of money not a criminal conviction and it's happening right now with request for a jury trial to get the least fair hearing possible due to splash damage from Epstein and Maxwell getting criminal convictions.
Soldato
And how many of your fellow rent boys have something dodgy on their records?
Caporegime
Obviously it's possible for someone to be a nonce and other people know it but the person hasn't been charged yet due to particular circumstances (e.g. the victim refuses to press charges). But whatever the case, the critical element is evidence.
When police have evidence, they charge people. When there is evidence that Prince Andrew has broken the law, I expect him to be charged. In the eyes of a judge, he is presumed innocent until proven guilty—and if that happens I'll be just as happy to see him convicted as any other nonce.
It does seem a certain SJW is protesting a bit too much.
Innocent until proven guilty is the only civilised and democratic process here.
Rent boys have sex with men, whilst that might your particular way of acquiring sex, it’s not a catch all term for male sex workers.
And I can safely say no one I hang out with has been convicted of nonceing, rent boy or otherwise.
But worrying you would assume that other people do hang out with nonces just because they work in a similar field, do you?
Just because they have not been convicted, they are still guilty of the crimes.
BTW, I'm using your logic here.
I’ll fix it for you because you seem to be having a really hard understanding basic concepts and English.
“Just because they have not been convicted, doesn’t mean they are still not guilty of the crimes.”
Being convicted or not doesn’t mean that they are guilty or innocent of their crimes… for you see, the information that is known is beyond “has someone been convicted or not”. Like Jimmy Saville, he wasn’t convicted was he? Was he guilty of his crimes?
I am utterly astounded how many peoples logic and understanding how things work have utterly failed, no wonder you lot are always arguing with me, some of you can’t even grasp the basic idea of there being more than 1 factor to consider.
In this case, your brains are so broken you can’t get past the idea that someone not convicted of a crime could be guilty of said crime. Incredible.
Befriending, hosting, socialising and networking with a known mass child rapist followed by lies about never having met victims and other easily proven false accounts.
If you condone nonces by your actions, you are complicit.
Where is there any hint of evidence that Prince Andrew was aware that Epstein & Maxwell engaged in sexual abuse of minors prior to his engagement with his 17 year old accuser?
Man of Honour
Given the wholly unsubstantiated wild accusations the usual suspects are throwing around, I think it's appropriate to list what Prince Andrew is actually accused of:
i) He's accused of having sex with a woman who was 17 at the time.
ii) He's accused of knowing they were 17.
iii) He's accused of knowing they were from the USA.
That's it. That's what some people are portraying as kidnapping children, taking them to another country so they can't be traced and raping them. I think that's, to put it very politely, highly unreasonable. I also think it's a trivialisation of those things, which do actually happen for real sometimes.
On top of that there's the point, however unfashionable it is nowadays, that there are serious ethical flaws in presuming a person guilty solely because they've been accused by someone deemed to be of a higher status unchosen group identity.
i) He's accused of having sex with a woman who was 17 at the time.
ii) He's accused of knowing they were 17.
iii) He's accused of knowing they were from the USA.
That's it. That's what some people are portraying as kidnapping children, taking them to another country so they can't be traced and raping them. I think that's, to put it very politely, highly unreasonable. I also think it's a trivialisation of those things, which do actually happen for real sometimes.
On top of that there's the point, however unfashionable it is nowadays, that there are serious ethical flaws in presuming a person guilty solely because they've been accused by someone deemed to be of a higher status unchosen group identity.
Like said, the absence of any televising of Ghislaine case, or, couldn't even see (anonymized) details of jury selection(&questions), we just have to trust that jury was not woke motivated, I suppose with them pursuing an appeal her defence will not yet publically reveal shortcomings.
inability of the BBC wrt to aforementioned Saville wasn't punished, if they can claim ignorance, then, less intelligent Andrew, should be able to make similar plee.
Sort of minimising the whole sex trafficking and raping of women there dude.
Sex trafficking is kind of blatant. If you are 30+ and a 17 year old is being thrust at you… that, and Andrew knew Epstein was a convicted sex trafficker but still associated with him…
Ok this is just brain wormed.
Ghislaine might be innocent because the jury might be ‘woke’ and Prince Andrew should get away with noncing because the people who were criminally negligent at the bbc got away with it too. Unbelievable.
So no, you don't have any hint of evidence at all then.
FYI Prince Andrews accuser says it happened in 2001... Epstein wasn't accused of sexual abuse against a minor until 2005 and wasn't charged until 2008.