PS3 on a plasma

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I'm only an occasional Game player and definately not hard core.

Can't make up my mind between an LCD Samsung LE40F868BDX or a plasma Pioneer PDP-428XD. I think probably a better SD quality would be better at this stage. Anybody run a PS3 with this Pioneer ?
 
Don't get PLASMA's. From day 1 they get worse as the gas depletes. By the time they have hit their 50% MTBF the brightness has nearly halved on them :eek:
Not to mention the screen burn problems with dogs.
 
tbh all other reviews on the pioneer 8g plasma state otherwise, apparantly screenburn doesnt exist on new sets on the lifespan tho im not so sure.

thing is most ps3 games are 720p on that 1080p lcd it will want to be 1:1 mapped giving a smaller picture.

on the other hand the pioneer will not need to do this and will look probably immense for movies apparantly the best quality picture from any flatscreen tv.

u really need to look at pixel pitch also on pioneer 8g plasmas if its bigger than lcd then well its going to look like u have no anti aliasing and jaggies everywhere.

again for movies it should trounce the lcd easily but take your time and maybe have a demo or visit avforums and ask other ps3 owners how it is.

gl pioneer gets my vote only wish could afford one
 
Dangerous-Danni said:
Don't get PLASMA's. From day 1 they get worse as the gas depletes. By the time they have hit their 50% MTBF the brightness has nearly halved on them :eek:
Not to mention the screen burn problems with dogs.
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What a load of tosh !!!!

Half brightness is @ 60k hours, the same time an LCD lamp is expected to last.

Screen burn doesnt happen, same with LCD (both can but dont these days) Screen retention you could get but i havent in 3 years and i watch lots of tv and play games etc
 
Screen burn does indeed happen with plasmas, the local shop has a 50" Pioneer plasma with News 24 burnt in (white box on the bottom)
 
It still happens, however it seems there are some steps you can take these days to minimise and prevent it happening later on, not to mention many plasmas now have anti retention technologies, which you have to activate through the menus, for example pixel orbitting.
Plasmas and LCDs can both burn if not looked after, especially during the early days/months of use.
 
I think you need to talk to a manufacture ie pioneer they will tell you and give you the correct infomation , don`t read forum web-site , take them with a pinch of salt , half the people on here are computer geeks

Yes screen burm does happen , but if you take care you should be ok

I guess i am correct , 60k hours is a lot of watching time , you need to run plasma tv in for 200 hours

Take care and it will last
 
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I've had my pioneer 436 for 2 1/2 years now and there is no sign of any screen burn what so ever and it does get a lot of use. One of the biggest reasons screen burn occurs and in particular in shops is the contrast and brightness and set way to high. Shops do it so the screens look better in the bright lights. End of the day its down to personal choice to the lcd vs plasma arguement, me personally I prefer Plasma any day of the week.
 
Dangerous-Danni said:
Don't get PLASMA's. From day 1 they get worse as the gas depletes. By the time they have hit their 50% MTBF the brightness has nearly halved on them :eek:
Not to mention the screen burn problems with dogs.
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Serious missinformation there mate, modern plasmas have a life expectancy of well over 10 years, and thats watching over 10 hours a day.

Screen burn shouldnt happen with modern TVs, you might get the odd bit of image retention, but its dissapears soon after. nothing to worry about.

I have yet to see an LCD that comes close to the quality of a decent plasma and iv ownded both.
 
the_tyke said:
I'm only an occasional Game player and definately not hard core.

Can't make up my mind between an LCD Samsung LE40F868BDX or a plasma Pioneer PDP-428XD. I think probably a better SD quality would be better at this stage. Anybody run a PS3 with this Pioneer ?
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Visit the avforums.com and talk to the people in the plasma forums who have the pioneer i think you will find its a cracking set.
 
Hi
I set up my panasonic px70 plasma with my ps3 earlier today and my jaw is still on the floor :D
I am loving it, best thing i have ever bought. :)
 
Dangerous-Danni said:
Don't get PLASMA's. From day 1 they get worse as the gas depletes. By the time they have hit their 50% MTBF the brightness has nearly halved on them :eek:
Not to mention the screen burn problems with dogs.
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Oh my dear god.... This is the sort of post that really get's me ****** off!!

Why even bother posting something like that!? I guess you own a LCD screen/TV. It wouldn't make a lot of sense someone saying:

'HA don't get one.... they are made from Liquid Crystals and you will get a dead pixel eventually'

LCD has it's let downs (main one for me is it's SD PQ on a lower priced TV) and so does Plasma but why just come in and say the above...

I mean.... I don't know what to say other than you need to go and read some more before putting a ****** up post like that in...

50% MTBF they have half brightness.... next your going to say that your going to need to get it refilled!:rolleyes:


Anywho rant over. Plasma's are more prone to Image Burn than LCD's (LCD's do get image burn, ask Tob3z if you don't belive me) but if you are careful it will not happen. For instance, In a shop the TV is going to be on Dynamic mode 99.9% of the time.... Leaving this setting on and then playing the same feed over and over and over (like BadBob's post) it will happen.

I have played UNO for over 10 hours straight (not got much of a life;)) and I had the outline of the cards from the right hand player and left hand player on the screen still...Watched normal TV for 10 mins and it was gone, THAT IS CALLED IMAGE RENTENTION!

Most plasma's IMO are better for SD atm and cheaper above 37". For HD LCD's are better but Plasma's still hold their own... I mean it is still Hi-Def is it not:D

When I got my new TV I made sure that I had excellent SD PQ as that is what I am going to be watching most of for the next few years. If I had a Blu-Ray, HD-DVD player & Sky HD then I would think about going LCD but while SD is out I feel that Plasma is the way to go at 42" and above.... but thats my opinion.

Sammy PS42Q97HD For The Win!
 
25,000 hour halflife is probably about right for a 4th generation Panny screen, but the 9th generation 720p panels (And the 10th gen 1080p panels) both have halflifes of 60,000 hours.

Thats almost 7 years running 24hours a day. And the fact is that plasma panels are 'overbright' in most domestic environments, I run mine at half brightness. If I still have the set in 7 years time, I wont feel to bad if I need to turn the brightness control up a little to compensate. (Although by then if I havent retired the 720p panny into a 'bedroom' TV, and bought a 50-60 inch 1090p.. I'll be very surprised).

Feed a plasma panel SD, or HD material and it will reward you with one of the more 'enjoyable' presentations currently available.

As phosphors age, it takes more energy to get the same brightness out of them. Thats what screen burn is anyway phosphor that doesnt glow so brightly anymore. Image retention is the opposite and is more common with new phosphor, its holding onto its energy long enough that you can still see the image several minutes later (in the right curcumstance.. like showing the sky+ pause logo for 10 minutes, then switching to say a plain grey background typical of many dvd players with no disk inserted etc.)

Image retention is nothing to worry about. Screen burn can largely be avoided by not having static "bright" images on display for too long at any one time.

Channel dogs on most channels now are designed well enough to use 'mid tone' colours and brightness for minimum damage to plasma screens. Although I am not so sure about the big green blob that BBC use for CBeebies :P I watch tons of 'Sky One' and there is no sign of the Sky One logo being burned onto my panel.
 
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True enough, although Plasma panels are generally 'designed' to look good in the shops with contrast set to max.... Back at home using the 'shop' setting whites are overdone. At 50% my set looks much more 'natural' and interestingly enough 50% is also the point where the TV is 'calibrated' according to the THX testcard.

So Im still pretty sure that as the panel ages, I'll be able to turn up the contrast and get a few more usable years out of it. That is of course assuming none of the microchips have failed by then... There's a lot more to a TV than just the panel.
 
I cannot uderstand why Sky need logo`s in the corner of the screen ?

I wonder if Pioneer & Panasonic ect have told sky these problems with screenburn logo`s ?
 
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