PS4 to sell 12m units by the end of 2014?

Similar to PS2, it just kept going till Sony said it was time to end it.

But yea, this is baby cick measuring stuff, 2 years or so when they are all out in their markets ( esp XO) and are in constant stock.
 
I've been quite surprised by the sales figures of the new consoles - but happy they are doing well. Don't get me wrong, I'm very pleased I bought my PS4 but there really isn't anything out for them.

I think it's lucky they launched with BF and COD to be frank as without them I think sales figures would be right down. Especially BF4 because that's a game not as many people could alreayd play on their PCs.

I just see and hear about loads of 'casual' gamers at work and what not buying these new consoles and I never expected all of these people to do so (not right now anyway).

Casual gamers have early adopted which I doubt has happened before in a major console release...
 
i think the £350 price tag is what has made a lot of people early adopt.

it's actually quite cheap compared to previous consoles. i picked another up last week for £330 brand new delivered next day online.

would be nice to know how many PS4's have been sold in the UK alone compared with XB1's in the UK alone. That would give a marker on how they are both doing as USA is normally MS territory and I would say the UK is neutral.
 
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I think PS4 will outsell XB1 by a slim margin in NA for January. Mainly because the PS4 is generally still sold out compared to XB1. I'm not sure how Sony will find spare consoles to supply Japan. Perhaps Japan will eat into NA/EU's supply.
 
An Exception said:
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I think PS4 will outsell XB1 by a slim margin in NA for January. Mainly because the PS4 is generally still sold out compared to XB1. I'm not sure how Sony will find spare consoles to supply Japan. Perhaps Japan will eat into NA/EU's supply.
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they usually stockpile them.

e.g. one of the factories won't have been shipping any consoles abroad but storing them locally in a warehouse. those consoles should be getting shipped to Japan around now tbh.

they should have like a million or two lying in a warehouse in china or on their way to Japan right now.

there's 2-3 different factories producing PS4's iirc
 
An Exception said:
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I think PS4 will outsell XB1 by a slim margin in NA for January. Mainly because the PS4 is generally still sold out compared to XB1. I'm not sure how Sony will find spare consoles to supply Japan. Perhaps Japan will eat into NA/EU's supply.
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It's not just a case of simply diverting consoles from EU or NA to Japan though, they're destined for a particular market before they're even produced.

There's clearly no real supply issues with them over here now anyway, the store I work in has 4 of them (and 5 XB1s I think) and it's a small one in rural Scotland; if there were shortages they wouldn't be sending them to us at all. If you want a PS4 and you live in the UK you can quite easily find one.
 
Seen them popping up on the Asda site now and then for the past week or two, worth keeping an eye on. None right now other than bundles though.
 
TheVoice said:
It's not just a case of simply diverting consoles from EU or NA to Japan though, they're destined for a particular market before they're even produced.

There's clearly no real supply issues with them over here now anyway, the store I work in has 4 of them (and 5 XB1s I think) and it's a small one in rural Scotland; if there were shortages they wouldn't be sending them to us at all. If you want a PS4 and you live in the UK you can quite easily find one.
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A friend at work wants to get a PS4 from Game (he has vouchers and wants to trade in his Xbox One). In Surrey they have none in stock and only one in stock online but has to be a bundle :(
 
this has always been the case at launches. extremely hard to find a console on it's own and retailers selling bundles only to up their profits, they don't make anything on new consoles but they do on bundles.

iirc i paid like £550+ to get a ps3 at launch as the retailer i ordered from would only sell bundles and the ps3 was impossible to find around launch on it's own nobody was selling them just by themselves. this time it's different retailers are selling them on their own but they are selling out really fast.

now we have the masses shopping on the internet and sites like HUKD, etc it's even harder to buy them because as soon as a deal pops up it's gone within an hour or two.

i got 2 consoles at launch on their own for below £350 because i had ordered 6 months in advance, i then got another one last week for £330. you can get them but they are in short supply imo.

the fact one shop up in the very north has a few doesn't mean much, i doubt you get a major amount of business due to your location and surrounding population so that's why you have stock, demand in your area isn't high most likely, had you been a shop in a major city with plenty of supply then that would be an indicator of no supply issues and supply easily meeting demand.

if you want a ps4 bad enough you can get one easily, if you want one brand new and on it's own, you need to be very quick and constantly looking.
 
Edz said:
A friend at work wants to get a PS4 from Game (he has vouchers and wants to trade in his Xbox One). In Surrey they have none in stock and only one in stock online but has to be a bundle :(
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sell the xb1 on gumtree for cash.

buy ps4 from anywhere that has stock.

use vouchers to buy games/accessories.

or sell vouchers on ebay.

if he wanted one that badly he could just do the above.
 
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the fact one shop up in the very north has a few doesn't mean much, i doubt you get a major amount of business due to your location and surrounding population so that's why you have stock, demand in your area isn't high most likely, had you been a shop in a major city with plenty of supply then that would be an indicator of no supply issues and supply easily meeting demand.
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But like I said, if demand was such that major stores are selling them as soon as they arrive, they'd be prioritising stock for those stores and not sending them up here where they sit in the warehouse for a week. Granted, it's anecdotal evidence but it's still indicative that supply isn't as dry as some people seem to make out.
 
the fact that consoles on their own are sold out pretty much everywhere and as soon as stock arrives they sell out within hours and that amazon has a month to wait until they get any more consoles on their own to sell.

i would say that supply isn't meeting demand at this current moment in time.

no it's not completely sold out everywhere but it isn't easy to get hold of one if you just want a console and not a bundle.
 
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But like I said, if demand was such that major stores are selling them as soon as they arrive, they'd be prioritising stock for those stores and not sending them up here where they sit in the warehouse for a week. Granted, it's anecdotal evidence but it's still indicative that supply isn't as dry as some people seem to make out.
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When you can get an XB1 from pretty much anywhere that sells consoles at any time without having to wait and you can't do the same for the PS4, it shows that supply is still not meeting demand.
 
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When you can get an XB1 from pretty much anywhere that sells consoles at any time without having to wait and you can't do the same for the PS4, it shows that supply is still not meeting demand.
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Well just ignore they both have two completely different global strategies in terms of availability.
 
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When you can get an XB1 from pretty much anywhere that sells consoles at any time without having to wait and you can't do the same for the PS4, it shows that supply is still not meeting demand.
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True, but there isn't this catastrophic shortage of consoles that some are convinced of nor is there such overwhelming demand that as soon as any store anywhere gets stock, they're gone again.

It all rolls back to the point that if there aren't any drastic shortages in the UK, I can't envisage there being any major issues with supplying Japan when it gets released there. But then nobody ever seems to know how the Japanese market is going to react to something so it'll be rather interesting to see.
 
Considering Japan is still to come for Sony and if they're supply constrained as we're led to believe, yet still outselling the Xbox in the US.. Those EU numbers aren't going to be pretty for MS.
 
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