PS4 to sell 12m units by the end of 2014?

cu3ed said:
He's already predicted how many consoles will sell.
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No. I'm going by what analysts prediction numbers (as linked to in literally the opening post). 20 million seems like a best case imo. I doubt XB1 will get anywhere near it's forecast sales levels. Perhaps XB1 might hit 6m if they are lucky.
 
cu3ed said:
You really do prefer to misunderstand when it suits you dont you.
Better supplies relative to what they had in the end of December FOR NA!?

Their biggest territory, so big the ignored them and concentrated NA first cause thats the market they wanted the most?.

I dont think yo know how product distribution works either, they arnt stock piling, IE diverting lines of sales form other places, they have product lines divided and set to certain regions spread across many different build lines.
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Do you have any proof they sent a better supply to NA in Jan?

They can only make so much and they have been launching in Australia, India, UAE.

How did the supply all these countries?

Supply surely must have decreased somewhere?

NA got most of their supply at launch, after that it has probably trickled into NA in comparison. So supply is being diverted elsewhere.


They ignored Japan their biggest territory because they know that is SAFE territory, they went on the offensive and brought the fight to MS's home. By ignoring their home base they will not have lost many sales because they made it up to them by giving them a ridiculous number of free games on PSN store in December iirc and they know they are a loyal fan base so by delaying the launch by 2-3 months wouldn't effect them that much.

Sony have seen all the angles and covered them all, it's amazing how they have outplayed MS at every turn.
 
Which is based on BS, it wont be that big a difference, nit in teh very very very long run.

Like I said, if thats the case then we can all say this early that the 360 sold more than the PS3 by 200million in the early days....yea....doesn't quite work out that way.

Cough**....Wii....*Cough.
 
cu3ed said:
Many ignored Wii when it clearly outsold in unit numbers, so how does that work?

If we are doing it by the numbers, what happened last Gen then, when 360 streaked ahead in numbers of units sold world wide?
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the wii wasn't capable of delivering the power developers needed most likely.

Also many multi plats did get converted to the wii, like FIFA, etc.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
the wii wasn't capable of delivering the power developers needed most likely.

Also many multi plats did get converted to the wii, like FIFA, etc.
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But they didnt focus their attentions on it either, for a console that ebaressed both the PS3 and 360 in terms of sales and in homes, seems strange they all didnt rush to work on IP's strictly for the Wii.

I mean..if we base everything solely on unit sales.
 
cu3ed said:
Hmm, interesting, then its odd they would go with every single other territory first before their own, strange way to treat your "sure bet", but then the PS2 would probably still be selling more there if they kept making it.
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no it isn't if you knew what a sure bet was then you wouldn't think like this.

a sure bet means you will win regardless.

Sony own the Japan market basically.
 
jamesy505 said:
Done (again), nowow does that translate into 160m against 20m?
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Xbox 360 Aprox. = 80million units sold
PS3 Aprox. = 80million units sold

Last gen install base =
80million + 80million
=160million

This Gen install base forecast to = 20m

Thus from a developers point of view, it's a potential 160million sales vs a potential 20million sales.
 
An Exception said:
Xbox 360 Aprox. = 80million units sold
PS3 Aprox. = 80million units sold

Last gen install base =
80million + 80million
=160million

This Gen install base forecast to = 20m

Thus from a developers point of view, it's a potential 160million sales vs a potential 20million sales.
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but titanfall is already coming to 360 is it not?

therefore it has to be a sony vs MS comparison not new gen vs old gen


obviously developers will target old gen as well, but what you want is MS developers to switch to sony due to PS4 sales trouncing XB1
 
cu3ed said:
Which is based on BS, it wont be that big a difference, nit in teh very very very long run.

Like I said, if thats the case then we can all say this early that the 360 sold more than the PS3 by 200million in the early days....yea....doesn't quite work out that way.

Cough**....Wii....*Cough.
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Cough**....WiiU....*Cough.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
but titanfall is already coming to 360 is it not?

therefore it has to be a sony vs MS comparison not new gen vs old gen


obviously developers will target old gen as well, but what you want is MS developers to switch to sony due to PS4 sales trouncing XB1
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Of course. I was just replying to the poster who thought Titanfall 2 wouldn't be released on last gen.
 
cu3ed said:
But they didnt focus their attentions on it either, for a console that ebaressed both the PS3 and 360 in terms of sales and in homes, seems strange they all didnt rush to work on IP's strictly for the Wii.

I mean..if we base everything solely on unit sales.
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the wii was one of those consoles people bought then never used much due to hype.

a bit like ipads, i know tons of people that bought one and never use it, it just sits on their mantelpiece.

this is proven by wii u sales, people figured out they never used their wii much, only the people that did have then went and bought wii u's.

that's why they never bothered with making games for wii, wii game sales were extremely weak in comparison to wii console sales.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
no it isn't if you knew what a sure bet was then you wouldn't think like this.

a sure bet means you will win regardless.

Sony own the Japan market basically.
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And that's what doesn't make sense.

Japan, sure fire thing.

Concentrate on NA to get that market ( possibly the riches spending market on games etc)

Still dont fulfill huge amounts in NA, but releasing in the sure fire market.

THe only tactic here is a Apple eque one, create hype from non availability.
 
cu3ed said:
And that's what doesn't make sense.

Japan, sure fire thing.

Concentrate on NA to get that market ( possibly the riches spending market on games etc)

Still dont fulfill huge amounts in NA, but releasing in the sure fire market.

THe only tactic here is a Apple eque one, create hype from non availability.
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They have fulfilled huge amounts in NA, they are outselling the XB1 nearly 2:1 in their home territory.

If that isn't fulfilling that market as much as they can then I don't know what is tbh.

Remember that America was hit worst of all by the recession, in fact they caused the recession and the domino effect hit nearly everyone on the planet.

So launch sales shouldn't really of been as good as PS3 worldwide but what they actually did was beat them did they not? That's really good going imo with the current climate in NA.

I await to see what MS do next, they will most likely slash prices.
 
They havnt outsold them 2:1, in ONE month they have.
And before that we had XO selling more over chrimbo.
THings like Titan Fall could brings sales back to them etc.
 
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cu3ed said:
They havnt outsold them 2:1, in ONE month they have.
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launch sales were always going to be high for both consoles, it's the same with the launch of any product sales are initially high. Couple that with december and sales should stay high.

January sales are more of a true indicator of the real picture, because initial launch phase and christmas is over in NA.

In February I'm willing to bet it will be 2:1 in sonys favour again, so long as MS don't do a price cut.
 
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