I got my Aego's for less than £70 inc.vat and delivery
Hey. No fair.
I'm not really a big fan of computer speakers, but I have to admit that you did stumble onto a bargain.
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Hey. No fair.
I'm not really a big fan of computer speakers, but I have to admit that you did stumble onto a bargain.
Ah, the good old Sciroccos [or Crossfires if you wanted 4.0]. Always wanted some, never tried 'em. Would be interesting to see how they compare nowadays.
A new Cambridge Audio A1 is £99 from the competitively-priced big red hi-fi specialists; the equivalent Gales are £50. Even taking into consideration the recent 20 quid price hike of the Aegos, that's still a considerable percentage more for a noticeably inferior sound.
How about comparing used and depreciated separates with used and depreciated Aegos? Doesn't that seem more of a fair comparison? If I were to take your depreciation scale [60% - optimistic, but let's run with it] used Aegos should be available for £40. Either way, I'd be paying twice as much for something of equivalent quality if I went down the separates route.
And that's before you factor in the whole 'convenience of buying online with warranties' versus 'risking Ebay/doing legwork to find those bargain separates with little or no warranties' issue. Don't get me wrong, there's not much that can beat the warm fuzzy glow of finding and purchasing a great used bargain, but conversely, there's few things worse than hearing a sharp pop followed by distortion or silence knowing that you've got no comeback.
You're right with your first point: their conveniently diminutive size is a considerable factor in the Aegos' sales 'attack'. But if you've got separates of quality that you're happy with, it'd be a silly waste to drop money on new hardware, of course.
Your second point I respectfully disagree with: The one area in which the Aegos might not be the best tool for the job is in games, where the exaggerated booming low-end of Logitechs and Creatives will provide a more visceral experience [as they have been designed to do]. Not that the Aegos would be even close to crap, it's just that other setups would be more suitable for this application.
Having said that, the Aego P5 setup I use for gaming has never left me wanting more. It was a great companion to the XBox360 I used to own, in particular.
Oh, and as great as the Aegos are for music, I have to admit that I wouldn't use them for monitoring purposes, either - they're not flat enough. So while I'm a big fan of these little systems, I'm not trying to persuade people that these are the only speakers you'll ever need. But this is why I'm saving for some Dynaudio BM-6As...
I've never heard [or indeed heard of, until now] these, so I can neither agree nor disagree with you. They look promising, if less well-constructed. There's precious little info available that I could get. Do you have a set? And have you compared them to Aegos? I'd be interested to hear morePhnom_Penh said:And yet the Swan M10's **** all over the Aego's and they cost less.
I know I'm coming across as a rabid AE fanboy here, but I'm not saying that they're the best thing ever. They are, however, cracking speakers for the money [even taking into account the recent price hike]; I've not heard anything in the same price bracket as good as these.
I'm just trying to temper the regular cries of "Separates beat all when it comes to PC audio!". No. Good separates that cost hundreds beat all.
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There are no UK suppliers, but there are suppliers who ship to the uk
.Well yeah, they only cost $100-ish so they're not going to look as well constructed, but they sound a lot better. A mate has a set, and I *used* (now getting M10sI've never heard [or indeed heard of, until now] these, so I can neither agree nor disagree with you. They look promising, if less well-constructed. There's precious little info available that I could get. Do you have a set? And have you compared them to Aegos? I'd be interested to hear more
) to have Aegos and the sound stage is bigger on the Swans (ok both are pretty big, but the Swan's is amazing for the price) the sound is very clear and very accurate etc etc - I guess to wrap it up they're ridiculously good for the price and they're even better than the Aego's which cost a lot more. Only little niggle is that they have really short cables, fairly easy to cat5 though.
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If you want, you can go over to newegg and pull some reviews off that website for the Swan M10.
The problem is that a lot of people who buy these speakers are generally quite young and havent heard the more expensive Hi-Fi equipment. They are in effect comparing these to Logitech computer speakers.
The problem is that a lot of people who buy these speakers are generally quite young and havent heard the more expensive Hi-Fi equipment. They are in effect comparing these to Logitech computer speakers.
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The only person who mentions logitech doesn't sound like an idiot. And the Logitech Z2300s are fairly good
.The only person who mentions logitech doesn't sound like an idiot. And the Logitech Z2300s are fairly good
I havent heard the logitech z2300s, however, from some of the reviews Ive read, they are loud, but untamed. In general, the cheaper speakers tend to boast huge wattage. And anyone reviewing those types of speakers tend to concentrate a lot of how loud they are. When a user opinion talks more specifically about the midrange and higher frequencies, they use the word "muddled", quite often. This is what scares me off a speaker package. Myself, I am more interested in the actual quality of the sound they produce - clarity and easy on the ear. I find big, boomy, untamed bass, very fatiguing. Each to their own though. If you like loud and boomy bass, then cheap computer speakers could actually serve you well and save you a lot of money.
One thing's for sure, audio equipment is very subjective.
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whats ironic, is that they arent loud at all
whats ironic, is that they arent loud at all
Not for you no, some people they are, I would say for 1 single little 8" driver it's got some pretty loud bass.
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I said they weren't bad, I never said they were top class or anything (ok, they're the best Logitech do). And no I never said I liked them, you might have noticed I've been talking about M10's which boast a massive 40w rms
. And in the reviews for them I see the words "mids" & "highs in the same sentences as "superb", "excellent" and "fantastic".And yes it is... but then if you want high quality audio equipment, PC speakers aren't what you want.
I thought the Z5500 are Logitech's best speaker package?
whats ironic, is that they arent loud at all
Ive not heard the latest offerings from Logitech, but in general, Ive always found computer speakers pretty loud. At max volume, my old Creative's wouldve had the neighbours banging on the walls, ceilings and floors, telling me to turn the volume down. I cant imagine that the current lineup of Logitech speakers have reduced in volume.
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tbh, I wouldn't be surprised if the sound of the 2300's sound better than the 5500s. Although I was talking wrt to this thread (ie 2.1)
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Depends where you look, on head-fi, everyone says they're crap (and I agree). On most PC forums they're the best thing since sliced bread (and Razer Barracuda's are the best headphones money can buy).
For £200 they're absolute pants. An av receiver and separates would walk all over them.
Wow. Thats harsh. There are a lot of people who swear by them. I'm not convinced as there are simply too many references of them being loud and having good bass. Loud, does not a good speaker set, make.
Anyway, Ive won a pair of old Mission 753s, so these will replace a pair of Mission 751s that have served me well. Lets see if these deliver the goods.
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it has but its localized, near-field type bass. computer speakers are the speakers that you place a few feet away from you. you know - couple on the desk, center under the monitor, rears just about an equal distance behind you. easy to achieve the those spl's - its the same with my little GenEXXA monitors i have on my desk. sitting virtually on top of them, they are perceivable very loud indeed. i wouldnt expect 5 or 7 of them in the corners of my room to achieve anything like what my main system can
And deep bass? A subwoofer tuned high can play loud. I see most replies with the log are to do with "going loud" and what about quality?
I've never heard them, but that 2300 comes close to my z5500 from what I've heard of people comparing it. The bass only goes down to like 30Hz on them but I'm sure it'll go lower, my z5500 can get down to 25Hz even though it says 32Hz, any lower than 25Hz and it gets louder in certain places as if its playing a higher tone. People do like sets that just go loud, for me the Z5500 is perfectly good enough for watching movies, just would like a bigger sub really, apart from that I have no complaints, and I'm going to get a Z2300 eventually for my PC, I've seen people say there is no SQ difference between those and the Aego M's and I think I'll be happy with them, I'm not rich and I cant be saving all my money now just for speakers, maybe later in life I'll spend 400+ on a set of 2.1 speakers.
it has but its localized, near-field type bass. computer speakers are the speakers that you place a few feet away from you. you know - couple on the desk, center under the monitor, rears just about an equal distance behind you. easy to achieve the those spl's - its the same with my little GenEXXA monitors i have on my desk. sitting virtually on top of them, they are perceivable very loud indeed. i wouldnt expect 5 or 7 of them in the corners of my room to achieve anything like what my main system can
My 5.1's sound the best about 4 meter away from them, cant test any further because my room is not big enough. But dont you have something like 2x 12" subs? So it would not be surprising if you would need 7 Z2300's to beat them, but is it not dependant on the enclosure aswell? Building a new enclosure for these logitech drivers should help I would have thought, I went over to ROE Forums and asked them about sticking another sub in my z5500 and they told me I would proberbly get better gains in SPL and SQ putting the Logi's 10" in a new enclosure rather than buying another 10" like an alpine type r or something. But then I would need a new amp anyway.
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i did have upstairs. down here i dont need it. ive got the one 3.5 cubic foot box with a 12" driver. its good for 115db at 30hz so i dont really need any more than that. however, i am looking at building a similar sized box bot with a 15" driver as my 12" is nowhere near as efficient below 25hz or so down here as it was up there. its funny just how much the room affects the response of the speakers
I dont know what to think with speakers, would you say my room is a bad place for peakers? Its on the 1st floor, wood floor, carpet, the rool is like an L shape, its got a small little bit which seems to have no bass in at all, and the room and walls just shake but the bass seems to no near good enough sometimes, now downstairs the 8" sony sounds louder which is shocking as its in a smaller enclosure and its only an 8", but then again its just really a square room and its concrete floor with carpet. My room is only like 3x4M maybe less, thats a rough guess though. Hell I even tried my Z5500's in the smallest room in the house, I was expecting it to be a lot louder in the smaller room but it was the opposite, was not as loud.
Only complaint I have about the logi systems is, needs more bass and some tweeters, sometimes it feels like nails are been driven into your ears with some extreamly high tones, guess that highlights the need for tweeters.
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