Its easy to explain...the whole Fury lineup became a joke because of the "overclockers dream" slip...and it wasn't even an official statement.
They want to keep a tight lip until the actual reviews are out.
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Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199
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Its easy to explain...the whole Fury lineup became a joke because of the "overclockers dream" slip...and it wasn't even an official statement.
They want to keep a tight lip until the actual reviews are out.
Hey you know my neighbour's dog's friend who has contacts "in the know" told me that the RX 480 would beat GTX 1080s in SLI with a secret BIOS tweak that upped the voltage and allowed the card to be clocked to 10 Ghz. True story.
We are still talking about the leak saying it could OC to 1400-1500MHz..
If its 390x -980 performance at 1266MHz, then this OC takes it a bit below stock 1070 performance.
They aren't happy because they cannot control what is being leaked and thus have no idea how it affects the public's perception of the GPU. That's why they want in-depth reviews from trusted review sites, and not some half-truths put together by "journalists". They also don't want everyone to rush to be first, as that isn't beneficial to either party, as we'd get half-hearted reviews and no decent overview of how it actually performs and what can be expected of it in the future (having more time also gives AMD time to respond to and perhaps even fix issues that might appear during benchmarking).
Finally, someone who is not caught up in the hype and thinking clearly.
Flopper is back!
The boards shone a little less bright without you!
But he's the exception. Can't have an AMD card thread without Flopper singing the praises. Felt like a whole other forum without him.
I don't see why people are saying these RX 480s will be over £200. And also believing random rumours and hearsay on the internet. "I work with AMD so pls believe me." Pssh. They shouldn't be. Maybe the most expensive 8GB models will go over, but not the regular ones. It kills AMDs whole spiel about price to performance, especially with the price drop the Maxwell cards have received.
If it were to be priced that high, the price to performance and the minimum price for adopting VR (at least the way AMD sees it, ignoreing headset costs), wouldn't improve much at all. Not to mention the 280/380 before it has always been priced under £200. That would be some Nvidia 1000 series level crazy, you'd have forums turning upside down complaining about prices, just like we currently are with the 1070...
I think GTX 970/R9 390 performance at current 380 prices is plenty good enough and most folks would agree. And if it really does go 980/390X level and beyond, then that's a bonus. The funny thing is, despite not being interested in buying the RX 480 for myself (currently with a 970), I am still interested in buying this card, probably as a birthday present for my younger brother, since I wasn't able to buy him a GPU for his birthday last year. And if it's significantly better than my 970... well I might just swap out and give him the hand-me-down then... depending on power usage.
I'm rather worried about the RX 470 and 460 though. Regardless of how close to the 480 it is in performance, it can't be too close in price or it won't sell as well. It could be the 950 all over again (a pointless card as it's priced to close to the next card above it). And the 460 performing like a 950... they can't have that card for any more than current R7 360/750 for it to be a worthwhile buy. The very low end cards have never been too great bang for buck, one had to go a bit higher for good value for money.
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Ahhhh that makes more sense.
Do the AMD specific AIB's usually make reasonably sized cards?
I can deal with more length sure, but more than a bit higher than the io plate or a tiny bit thicker will do me in.
Seems all the custom nvidia 1070/1080 cards cept the clown cards and the evga SC's are stupidly tall (or thick ).
I can deal with more length sure, but more than a bit higher than the io plate or a tiny bit thicker will do me in.
Seems all the custom nvidia 1070/1080 cards cept the clown cards and the evga SC's are stupidly tall (or thick ).
Looking at the standard card with the blower I expect some very small AIB cards.
People are skeptical because they rightfully should be.
There will not be an equal balance of DX12 and DX11 games next year. You are dreaming and getting way too caught up in the hype.
And *even if that was the case*, it still doesn't mean that multi-GPU through DX12 is going to be supported well. I really dont think you're understanding that it doesn't matter what AMD wants. This is stuff that developers will have to do now. Before, much was handled in the driver and the GPU manufacturers could do a huge chunk of the work in getting it supported but that wont be the case anymore. And when modern graphics rendering just keeps getting more advanced, it's incredibly naive to think devs are going to go out of their way to support this stuff. Getting a working and well optimized DX12 path will be enough extra work on its own, much less trying to delegate graphics tasks to different GPU's manually, especially with two different GPU makers.
I dont know why so many of you insist on setting yourself up for disappointment.
This just seems like serious reaching, when they could get all that same positivity now and potentially stop 1070 sales in their tracks. Hell, now might even be better in terms of publicity against Nvidia because current 1070/1080 prices, at least here in the UK/EU are high because of low supply, making Nvidia seem worse.
I really dont think this is the case, though. I imagine the cards wont match a 1070 and thus there's no urgent need to get the info out pronto. Much simpler explanation tends to be the right one.
in theory yes that would work - there was a lot of talk about with APUs from AMD uplifting a lot of stuff with a normal card - it would also work with Intel
Kind of doubt that, when you think of how the fury cards were oem's seemed content to stick an extender bracket to the pcb to make use of the coolers they already had. Possible i suppose a few of them might make compact nano type versions.
Spoilsport
We can only dream that AMD have pulled off another 4850/4870 and 5850/5870 card again.
Nobody was expecting great things when AMD pulled the 4850/70 out of the bag.
The 4870 gave you 80% of the GTX280 performance for half the price.
If AMD can get close with the 480 and even give 70% of a 1080 performance for half the price then I'm sold.
performance per watt goes up, cost of pcb and cooler goes up, so you end up with product having lower power efficiency, more expensive, and with less overclocking headroom, you balance the pro and cons before you ship, AMD focus is on efficiency and price, and it's better this way, at least to have a clear cut from last gen, and start rebranding their image.
No I agree with Drunken, we have seen it before. If all the reviews came out now and it did come close, Nvidia would just drop the price of the 1070 and people would still buy the 0170 over the 480. AMD cards need to be substantially faster or considerably cheaper than Nvidia cards for people to buy them.
Look at how many are saying they hope the 480 is close to a 1070 so that Nvidia has to drop the price so they save money buying a 1070.
The hype train is getting so big, AMD are losing control of it.
There's no meaningful difference between Nvidia dropping their price now or the day AMD launches the 480. Either way, the result will be the same - 480 reviews lead directly to 1070 price drop. Whether the product is actually available or not isn't going to change anything.
I've only seen a tiny handful of people saying that.
I'm not sure how that helps your point anyways. If they are set on a 1070, then they're gonna buy a 1070. Whether 480 reviews come out now or later isn't going to change that. :/
Those on the fence between the two *could* potentially be persuaded, though...if they dont just buy a 1070 first....