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To be fair the Fury X launch was pretty poor, there were about 10 cards in the whole of Europe.
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To be fair the Fury X launch was pretty poor, there were about 10 cards in the whole of Europe.
If there were to be models shipping with 1500MHz or so out of the box, that'd likely mean there was more headroom above that too, as it'd have to be a fairly safe and achievable figure for them to be mass-producing them at that speed.
Of course, it could be a load of old cobblers.
Interesting they surly would not drop the 10's would they
I suspect they will drop all the 900's this would help clear the stock quicker and give them a breather with the 10's but it all depends just how much stock of the 900's there is left......
If they did drop the price on the 10's and i say had just bought one i would be a little miffed for sure .....will see how it all pans out... all exciting stuff really now where's is my bucket of popcorn gone....
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If there were to be models shipping with 1500MHz or so out of the box, that'd likely mean there was more headroom above that too, as it'd have to be a fairly safe and achievable figure for them to be mass-producing them at that speed.
Of course, it could be a load of old cobblers.
Its going to be such a good overclocker it will break the space time continuum.
If there were to be models shipping with 1500MHz or so out of the box, that'd likely mean there was more headroom above that too, as it'd have to be a fairly safe and achievable figure for them to be mass-producing them at that speed.
Of course, it could be a load of old cobblers.
With a stock clock of 1266MHz I was expecting a 1400MHz OC anyway but the new 14nm process will allow much higher which is evident from Nvidia's Pascal.
As Raja would say, 'Exiting' times ahead
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FuryX was a flaccid launch
No they havn't, they've showed a couple of games at unknown settings, and a benchmark since Christmas.
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I would still be waiting for mine if I wanted the FTW card but there is many other choices.
No, you said "they didn't really come first", which they quite clearly did. You are using people who want a specific card as an argument, which is rubbish.
I got mine roughly a week after launch and stock was really short with that.
They have sold 1000's (probably tens of thousands) at nicely inflated prices, that is all they care about .
...and yes they did come first. You could buy a 1080 on the 27th May and you wont be able to buy an RX480 till the 29th June. By definition, they came first
well it's sweet to think that nvidia in purpose preventing the AIB from making money by withholding stock, just to hike the price of a card already critisized for it's price , while the competitor announce a card that raises debate over pricing, certainly makes more sense at a time when everyone is expecting or suggesting that Nvidia need to drop prices, for them to go the other way to raise them.
AIB designs are ready and shipping already, just with not high enough numbers, should open your eyes that they do not have enough.
AMD have 2 chips to produce 100mm²+200mm² fairly better yield in theory and larger numbers, than Nvidia's 300mm²+200mm², assuming the lack of stock is due to the priority that shifted to GP106, to get back to the market with a card to compete with 480 that made nvidia's half offering obsolete from 980 and down.
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The chances of a 1080 selling more than a 970 is highly unlikely yet we have fanboys claiming that here . Amazing if all of a sudden £600 cards are mainstream.
Im not sure what your point is? They still came first and thousands of people are enjoying gaming on their 1080's.
Yes demand is out stripping supply for a lot of the custom cards at the moment but so what. This has inflated prices unfortunately but there are still seemingly vast amounts of people prepared to pay it.
i just quoted what gibbo said. It could be a lie, it could not.I serious doubt that 1000's of people actually have possession of a 1080.
Yes maybe 10,000+ on pre order but not 1000's shipped.
ANd demand is only outstripping supply cause AIB can only supply 10 a day. When one of the biggest AIB for Nvidia, EVGA have to do daily tweets saying "5 or 10 more delivered today, thats it, come back tomorrow" its not great is it? And thats for them shipping from their own website to the USA only. No preorders shipped yet on EU website. ANd any card launched with a worldwide production of custom cards of approx 100 a day is going to inflate prices.
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Easily! I bet just ocuk have probably shipped hundreds already! Did you not see the amount of stock that came in every few days on the first few weeks of release and sold out instantly!
Globally it will be thousands, if not tens of thousands shipped.
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Yup, this is the issue. I'm honestly expecting small Vega to give the 1080 a bit of a pasting and I wouldn't be surprised if big vega beat GP102 comfortably as well.
If small vega has HBM2, it will destroy 1080 in overall performance and performance/watt.
I saw. Ignoring FE, it was 10s of each AIB not even hundreds. I think the gigabyte gaming was the one they had the most of and that was only 100.
And ocuk wioll be one if not the biggest retailer of these in the uk.
No US shops have had any EVGA AIB cards delivered to them yet.
Yea Gibbo most likely counts pre orders as sales due to you paying for the item before hand. You can still cancel your order during this time so not exactly a guaranteed sale.
Probably is a bigger demand for the 1080 than there was for the 970 granted but saying there is been more bought than the 970 is abit over exaggerated. Most of the pre orders seem to be AIB cards too while FE are easier to get a hold of. Most likely nVidia keeping most of the GPU for them selfs and distributing less to board partners.
Probably is a bigger demand for the 1080 than there was for the 970 granted but saying there is been more bought than the 970 is abit over exaggerated. Most of the pre orders seem to be AIB cards too while FE are easier to get a hold of. Most likely nVidia keeping most of the GPU for them selfs and distributing less to board partners.
You're right and wrong at the same time. Yes, it's not about what AMD wants. Yes it's what developers will have to do now (in fact MUST do now).
What people don't realize though is: it's what Microsoft wants. It's what Steam wants. It's what developers ARE doing but are not able to port to the PC. Sony is probably the only party that isn't enthusiastic about it.
Here's the thing: with DX12 developers can and will port their game engines to the PC. In fact, Microsoft announced at E3 that you will be able to buy a game ONCE and play it on both your Windows 10 desktop, XBox One or XBox Scorpio console. How do you think that game will run on all these platforms with decent performance? Yes, you guessed it: DX12.
People think DX12 is far far away and it will take a long time before lots of PC games come out. It's far from it. When Scorpio is released it will come with AAA titles. Those titles will run on game engines written in DX12. It just takes a couple of decent game engines: the studios don't care, they'll just built on whatever engine they can license which is good enough. Those exact same games will happily run on Windows 10 as well.
So how far away is Scorpio?
NVidia better not miss with Volta. They need to sort out their DX12 performance and they need that by 2017.
EDIT: there's a whole gaming world outside PC gaming, with super-cool tech as far as engine go. Until DX12/Vulkan, it could NOT be ported to PC because it was extra work. With DX12/Vulkan, it can and WILL be ported to PC, much sooner than you think. As far as XBox Scorpio goes, I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft tries to LOCK developers into that model: they need it to get their user base large enough to compete with the Playstation. Imagine you're an XBox exclusive title and start working on your title aiming for Scorpio. Imagine your ONLY option to develop for the Scorpio is DX12. That's it. There's only DX12 in the new consoles. Microsoft won't allow DX11 or anything else. Imagine you go through the trouble of doing all that work and release for the XBox One. Now imagine this: your game AS IS, will run on Windows 10. Not Windows 7 (because Microsoft wants to even force users to Windows 10). Will you now take the time and cost of writing a DX11-optimized version for NVidia?
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No I didn't see the amount that came in stock and neither did you. A green 'in stock' every few days could be 10k cards that came in and sold out, or 11. Without numbers listed in stock you have absolutely no idea how many came in stock.
But you're acting like 10k cards is a large amount, it isn't. For a midrange card and that is all the 1080 is, I'd be expecting at least 50k available on launch day and 10-20k extra shipped per week, it is no where near that, and that is being conservative with production ability of 300mm^2 chips. It's out of stock everywhere, the custom models availability around launch was clearly and obviously lied about by AIBs/Nvidia.
Here is a hint, promised available on launch, turning into 3rd June, then 17th, then July is not an indication of good availability at all. When that is for almost all the custom cards there is a real problem of lack of availability and increasingly in stock FE editions is likely more about disappointing overclocking results/noise levels for overclocks reviews talked about and waiting for custom cooled cards than massive availability of FE editions.
"Ignoring FE"
Lol
and 1 uk store had as you say 100 gigabyte gamings (just 1 model) and you dont think globally they havent physically sold 1000's?