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Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199
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I am writing them off based of their previous performances. Phenom did not set the world a light, Bulldozer was a joke when it came out and Zen will most likely be the same story. AMD are now past it, all the decent engineers have left along with smaller budget they have 0 change to compete in the CPU space. Really they should save their cash and abandon the CPU space. Waste of time, waste of effort. The market has spoken in the last decade.
Their hardware has been a huge problem for them. They generally consume more power & produce more heat, Fury was a total disaster a top of the line card with 4GB of VRAM....lol
RX480 is a smaller 290 with slightly improvements. Even their own AMD customers with a 3 year old 290, don't have a viable path to upgrade, even if they want to stick with AMD. It's embarrassing.
AMD have been producing average cards for years now. RX480 is simply an extension of their averageness. And it's not a bad card for me, it's a bad card for everyone, looking at their <20% market share.
The RX480 won't change that, simply due to how unimpressive is. 1060 even if it has worse performance per dollar, it will still sale more, simply because it is called Nvidia 1060 and not AMD 1060.
AMD with the amateur products have made their own products toxic to touch. Instead of trying to change their toxic brand, they gave us a smaller 290 from 3 years ago.
And where is Vega? Ah right 6 months after their competition have already sold everything to all of the potential Vega customers.
Let's face it at £229 for the 8GB, if it's no faster than a 970/980, it'll be a tough sell.
It's quite simple really. If you have a $200 budget for a GPU. What do you buy?
No, it won't.. There are a lot of other factors that make it more attractive that the 970/980.. First, and most obvious, being power draw.. lower heat output, form factor etc..
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Let's face it at £229 for the 8GB, if it's no faster than a 970/980, it'll be a tough sell.
yep, waste of time releseing it if its that.
Plus an extra 4gb of memory.
This shows how much miss information Khalid Moammer @ wccftech puts up.
In the latest article from the Stream earlier he states:
'The streamer measured the card’s power draw at idle, which was 14W. Gaming power draw was not measured during the stream.'
This information is incorrect and he only got this information from the comments from the chat box with a software translator.
In fact the 14w was referring to the benchmark score (13.9k) and not the power draw.
Article here: http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-overclocking-tool-leaked/
In the latest article from the Stream earlier he states:
'The streamer measured the card’s power draw at idle, which was 14W. Gaming power draw was not measured during the stream.'
This information is incorrect and he only got this information from the comments from the chat box with a software translator.
In fact the 14w was referring to the benchmark score (13.9k) and not the power draw.
Article here: http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-overclocking-tool-leaked/
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wow 18 months after 970 came out and now we get a card that's got all that, what a world we live in now.
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Seriously where are you getting this from. Hawaii is the 290 which is GCN 1.1. There has been Gcn 1.2/1.3 since then with improvements and now Gcn 4 for polaris. Amd have said themselves and shown in slides that the majority of the GPU is brand new so in no way is it a shrunk 290. Stop repeating this as it's simply not true.
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All this improvements along with a node shrink has brought us what exactly? A card that will be 20% faster for the same price you could buy the 290 years ago?
390 was practically rebadged 290. RX480 looks from performance wise to be slightly faster than 390. Man that is some major improvements we got here.
While Nvidia gives us 50% performance increase and double the VRAM going from just the last generation. Its ok we can wait for Vega in 2017....lol
Ok, let's go through this, since you're going to try and act condescending here.
1) Multiple outlets reporting it: let's see 'em. Give me the sources where multiple sources say the card only pulls 100W.
2) Trusting leaks as 'definitely true' is beyond irresponsible when it comes to assessing actual truth. This should be extremely obvious by now, but people seem to fall for it over and over because sadly, people are easily influenced based on what they want to believe. Not to make too fine a point on it, but it's actually the cornerstone of many tyrannical dictatorships' methods for public support. Not that this is the point, but it illustrates how gullible people can be when they are placated by assurances.
3) We really dont know what kind of overclocking headroom is possible, whatever the end result is. And even if it turns out the cards are an overclocker's dream, it may require more than a single 6-pin connector to actually take advantage of that.
Your turn.
wow 18 months after 970 came out and now we get a card that's got all that, what a world we live in now.
In todays stream they used the Ludashi benchmark the the 480 graphics score was 13.9K. To put that into prospective the GTX 970 stock gets just under 16k and 980Ti Stock 24k+.
wow 18 months after 970 came out and now we get a card that's got all that, what a world we live in now.
The lower power draw and heat are going to be pretty minimal I would think. The 970 is pretty fugal as it is.
The extra Vram is nice, it will be a little faster, a little cheaper, a little smaller. nothing in a big way but a lot of little improvements.
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So... it's not the product but the brand name. Which is exactly what I said.
As for the rest, you've just said you don't care about performance per dollar, only heat & power then slated a low power draw card. Gotta applaud your ability to not read your own words, most impressive sir!
Doesn't really matter what they release as far as you're concerned as you've made your mind up that you don't like them. That's your prerogative but don't assume it means that they're irrelevant in the space. Enjoy your NVIDIA card, I wish you well with it. You don't need to justify your purchase to me
The 1080 isn't 50% faster than the last gen nor does it have more RAM than a TitanX or even if choosing the 980Ti it's not doubled the RAM. Oh, or did you mean in equivalent part of the lineup, so comparing with the 980? In which case you should be comparing the 480 with the 380, in which case AMD are delivering ~100% increased performance and doubled RAM. So by your own counting they're giving the end user a bigger gain. Consistency eh?
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Ludashi, THE benchmark reference
Christ at least use already public AMD benchmarks which clearly show where RX480 stands.Yes, I was referring to my earlier post showing the Nano down to £192+ VAT, this confuses things greatly. What would you choose, Nano for £20 more or the 480?
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Nvidia has also increased the price by a lot for it's increases. Say the 390x was £320 and this comes in at £220. You have a new gen card with all the benefits that a node shrink brings and pay less. I don't see the problem.