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Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199

Wow humbug has changed a lot.

If you have a gtx 770 or a 280x or lower the 480 is a good buy.

Any higher then no its not worth it unless you want it, if in 2 weeks my 780 died then i might buy one, but i might instead buy a 1080, who knows.
 
Ian Evey said:
Wow humbug has changed a lot.

If you have a gtx 770 or a 280x or lower the 480 is a good buy.

Any higher then no its not worth it unless you want it, if in 2 weeks my 780 died then i might buy one, but i might instead buy a 1080, who knows.
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Anyone on them cards already bought the 970.
 
I waiting on Benchmarks before I get carried away with all this. If its around 980 i'll prob still buy one just to tide me over till next year.

Either way I honestly couldn't careless.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
Anyone on them cards already bought the 970.
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Not true at all! They is still loads people rocking older GPUs even if the 970 did sell well. Not everyone upgrades every year. They is still loads people rocking 600 series from Nvidia and 7000 series from AMD.

Highend and above is a niche market, compared to the mass
 
sprite- said:
PC Gaming is affordable - Mid/High end less so.

Also no it doesn't, Nvidia are giving you roughly the same performance per £ with the 1080 at launch as they did with the 980 at launch.

The whole point of a new generation is technology has moved on, processes have improved.. So now for every £ i spend i get more performance than i did before... Due to the 1080 pricing, that isn't the case. It's a much better card than the 980 - yes.. But at a much higher price. Take any other industry, mobile phones, cars etc.. Yes you may see a slight increase in price but essentially you're getting a better product than previous for roughly the same price (minor increases to reflect inflation, maybe steep increase in tech).
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I do think it's worth noting that the UK/EU prices for the 1070 and 1080 are being gouged to hell. This isn't the case in the US at all, where you can get cards for more or less what you'd expect given the MSRP.

People are getting carried away assuming prices here are all based on Nvidia's wishes.
 
Gux said:
Well yeah it is a problem if you're stuck on any card on this list.

290
290x
380x
390
390x

Basically anyone that has bought a mid to high end AMD GPU in the last 3 years. Need to wait another 6 months for Vega. They are literally losing all of the above customers, which I am a part of. Have to wait for a best part of 4 years to be able to upgrade from those cards. They been bringing same performing card out for close to the same money for 3 years now.

Oh well if they can't compete, they can't get my money. Simple really.
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Missing out on all the potental previous Nvidia customers as well, who bought the huge selling 970, and the 980, from what the 970 has supposedly sold like, then thats a huge, huge loss right there, but they are saying its VR now, no ones interested in the higher spec'd, higher priced cards now, as apparently, we are all buying headests, or have a one already, so only want a £200 or so card to go with em. :p


XeNoNF50 said:
They just might have :D *RUNS*
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:eek: :D
 
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Gux said:
Well yeah it is a problem if you're stuck on any card on this list.

290
290x
380x
390
390x

Basically anyone that has bought a mid to high end AMD GPU in the last 3 years. Need to wait another 6 months for Vega. They are literally losing all of the above customers, which I am a part of. Have to wait for a best part of 4 years to be able to upgrade from those cards. They been bringing same performing card out for close to the same money for 3 years now.

Oh well if they can't compete, they can't get my money. Simple really.
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4 Years? I have had my 390X for 8 months. way to take a worstcase scenario and paste it like it applies for everything.
 
Seanspeed said:
I do think it's worth noting that the UK/EU prices for the 1070 and 1080 are being gouged to hell. This isn't the case in the US at all, where you can get cards for more or less what you'd expect given the MSRP.

People are getting carried away assuming prices here are all based on Nvidia's wishes.
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Custom 480s are supposed to start at $249 and AMD have already confirmed they would go up to $300. Given the exchange rates and regional price margin we have seen with the 1070 and 1080 then a $:1GBP will make sense.

The UK 1070/1080 price hike has very little to do with Nvidia.
 
Gux said:
Then it should cost the same as the 380. A cool £130. But it won't will it. It will cost what a 290 and 390 have cost for the last few years.

The fact is no matter how you spin it, Nvidia delivers, that's why they command 80%+ market share. AMD does not deliver and it is highly likely they never will again, in both GPU and CPU space.

AMD by being rubbish for nearly a decade have made their brand rubbish. Come next gen, I would not be surprised their market share being single digits.
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Because the 1070 costs the same as a 970 currently goes for. Again, you can't see your own colour-blindness :( if comparing 970 & 1070 on performance, 980 & 1080 on performance then do the same for AMD. Likewise price. Given AMD started as the better value option that's still an NVIDIA biased comparison :p

(Edit: Prices look significantly cheaper than the 290 and 390 are at currently)
 
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I really wanted a 390, so a card that is cheaper and performs around the same area would be great. I honestly have no reason to upgrade from my 380, it's just newer and shiny, and I will enjoy playing with it. Unless it's DOA from reviews, then I might wait for the 1060, or even opt for the 1070.
 
D.P. said:
Custom 480s are supposed to start at $249 and AMD have already confirmed they would go up to $300. Given the exchange rates and regional price margin we have seen with the 1070 and 1080 then a $:1GBP will make sense.

The UK 1070/1080 price hike has very little to do with Nvidia.
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Well we dont exactly know where the increased 1070/1080 prices are coming from. If it's limited supply, then Nvidia are partly to blame. But it could also be that Nvidia inherently raised the prices for UK/EU cards due to import costs if they are delivering them directly. Or it could be because Nvidia are charging a lot to 3rd party card makers to where they have to raise prices to provide a reasonable profit margin.

So it's *possible* that it's still Nvidia's fault. Even if the prices seen aren't intentionally set by them. But that's all 'IF's', so not gospel.

I do think it goes to show that there's a whole chain of supply that can affect pricing, though. So dont automatically assume anything unless you have inside knowledge of this supply chain and know who is ****ing who.
 
Some of these people crack me up when they see a random unoptimised bench where the 480 performs poorly and jumps in screaming its slower than the 970 etc.

It will be a 980 competitor, slightly faster in DX11 and quite a bit faster in 12 while overclocking just as well even with the reference PCB which will be power limited around ~1500 speeds. We can easily extrapolate this, if its 5.8TF with the 390x being 5.9 and when Anandtech stated that Polaris will reach closer to its peak theoretical performance in games its pretty easy to estimate the performance (equal or faster than 390x/980)

So how much is that 980 again? Over $350. 390x? Over $300. So a $230 card is giving you more VRAM, lower power consumption and higher performance. That to me sounds like a pretty good deal.
 
lets just say it as it is. a 390x.

if its £200-£220 its decent price for performance.

if its overclocks really well could be even better.

we will know soon and im sure all the usual hoo har will kick off.:D
 
fs123 said:
You make it look like it would be disappointing if it's 'only Fury Pro level'.
If it can reach that then it's fantastic for the price. No one in their right mind should be expecting 980ti levels from a £200 card.

I can see the rival fans gloating now that some rumours of less than 390X performance is coming through. If it is only 390 level then it will indeed be disappointing but theoretical performance says it should be 390X level at least.
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I don't think it's disappointing. I'll repeat again, I think it's a great mainstream card that will be hard to match by Nvidia with GP106.

What disappoints me is the lack of bigger brothers. Vega is 2017. Late 2016 at best.
 
Decided im going to probably skip the 480 and the first Vega and just wait for the big Vega next year, in the meantime im going to console myself with a 1440p 144hz screen :)

Just have to resist buying 2 x Aftermarket 480's if they get decent reviews hahaha
 
SiDeards73 said:
Decided im going to probably skip the 480 and the first Vega and just wait for the big Vega next year, in the meantime im going to console myself with a 1440p 144hz screen :)

Just have to resist buying 2 x Aftermarket 480's if they get decent reviews hahaha
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Makes sense. Buy a super expensive monitor that you cant properly power and then later on buy a cheap crossfire setup that will be ill-supported and give you terrible frametimings.
 
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