Rangers to the SFL no SPL fans need apply :D

Thing is that for years the SPL has been a slave to the Sky money and it's insistence on 4 old firm games a season now that they are gone perhaps clubs should again be looking at a 18 team league again. I still think the SFL clubs will vote with their wallets and offer the Gers div 1 next season
 
I just don't see it be as much doom and gloom as has been stated in the press. Not one of the SPL's commercial partners has indicated they will pull out if Rangers aren't in the SPL or in the SPL within 1 year. If anything its been the opposite with them stating they will continue supporting Scottish football.

Aye but for less money even tennents said it was committed to Scottish football and was sure they could renegotiate a deal lol
 
Aye but for less money even tennents said it was committed to Scottish football and was sure they could renegotiate a deal lol

Nobody has even mentioned renegotiating deals...... and as Tennents are no mor e than a club sponsor their input into SPL commercial revenue is nil.

Too much scaremongering not enough facts.
 
Statement from the Rangers Supporters trust

RST Board and Member’s statement
Sunday, 08 July 2012 20:08

It is with little surprise but some dismay that we note the statement made today by the Hibernian Supporters Club. Give the propensity for these statements to appear in groups we feel it is worth correcting some of the inaccuracies contained within it before others make the same mistakes. After all, given the now shattered falsehood that ‘sporting integrity’ was the overriding aim of clubs in the SPL, we should do all we can to avoid another myth being perpetuated by those clubs and their fan groups.

It is probably worth noting that we fully agree with the Hibs Club’s opposition to the SFA/SPL aim of placing Rangers into Division 1 of the SFL. However, their assertion that this is being done to assist Rangers is absurd. The Rangers fans have made it very clear that we wish the club to resume playing in Division 3. This has been communicated to both the board and the manager of our club and they are entirely supportive. This is the correct solution and one which means the club will forever be beyond reproach. The tactics being employed by the SPL and SFA in order to deny Rangers the opportunity to do so are outrageous.

However, let us be very clear. This ‘solution’ is being cobbled together for the benefit of clubs in the SPL, like Hibernian, who have based their business models around having Rangers in the league. It is being done so that Rangers can be used as a cash cow to sustain these clubs whilst inflicting maximum damage on our club’s ability to compete. If our club are forced into this it will be purely to protect the financial interests of the current SPL clubs.

Whilst we have little interest in whether the financial projections for the SPL clubs are accurate, the SPL chairmen clearly feel that they can sustain their clubs with reduced, or no, TV revenue and sponsorship and without the patronage of our away support. We wish them the best of luck.

The SFL clubs are blameless in this scenario. They are being blackmailed by the spectre of formation of SPL 2 and should not have been put in this position by the SPL clubs and the SFA. The SFA are also attempting to blackmail Rangers into accepting these proposals using a licence document concocted specifically to threaten our club.

That the Hibs Club should use Rangers’ successful court challenge of an unlawful SFA sanction as an excuse to attack our manager says everything about the motives behind their statement.

If the Hibernian fans, or fans of any other SPL club, are unhappy with the plan to place our club, against its will, in Division 1, then perhaps they should address their concerns to the boards of the Scottish football authorities, rather than taking it as a further opportunity to attack our club. Indeed, the Hibernian Supporters Club are in an excellent position to do so, given that their Chairman, Rod Petrie, is one of the main architects of this proposal along with Stewart Regan, Neil Doncaster and the club chairmen who are lucky enough to hold privileged positions on the boards of the SPL and SFA.

Rangers Football Club has existed and prospered for 140 years. We are in the middle of a very difficult period in our history but are resolute in the knowledge that our club will be here for another 140 years, and beyond. We look forward to being given the opportunity to make new friends in our journey through the Scottish leagues, starting in Division 3. We are sure this journey will benefit the clubs in those leagues and look forward to returning to a prosperous SPL with bountiful ‘sporting integrity’. If we are denied this opportunity then rival clubs should look no further than their own chairman for someone to blame.

This sums up my feelings about the matter.
 
That statement is so ridiculously bitter.

"We want to be placed in the third division, but we're still going to slyly **** off any SPL clubs who want us to go there."
 
This is a reply to Hibs statement on the matter.

They start ok saying they're glad that their chairman voted no etc then for some reason they go on a tirade against Rangers.

...we have also been saddened over the last few months to hear Ally McCoist attempt to destroy a disciplinary process that had been created to help move the game forward.

Other comments from high profile Rangers figures such as Sandy Jardine have seemed to be nothing more than vindictive threats against other clubs. These have left us shocked and angered.

Yet this apparent lack of contrition is being ignored as the Scottish football authorities unite to do what they feel is best for just one club.

Really?

Are they doing this for Rangers sake?

The same SFA that gave us an unlawful transfer embargo and a 160K£ fine?

We are now 3 weeks away from kick off and the SFA have said NOTHING regarding these matters. Yet Hibs fans think that this lack of action by the SFA is somehow Rangers fault?

The SFA have still to decide if we can even become a member when they going to vote on that?

What are the sanctions to be imposed?

They are doing this at the behest of the SPL chairmen who want to have their cake and eat it. SPL chairmen who are now bricking it incase the SFL clubs vote us into Div 3.

This is not arrogance from me as a Rangers fan where is the arrogance in this?

Our Chairman has already stated publically that the club is sorry for the actions of it's previous owner yet the Hibs supporters choose to ignore this fact....

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/footba...oblems-caused-by-ibrox-crisis-86908-23903915/

I'm stating my opinion that clubs in the SPL may not survive if sponsorship and tv money is significantly reduced. My opinion is not my desire or wish though and people seem to often confuse the two. I can't say for certain that clubs will have financial problems because of this but reading statements from chairmen over the last 4 months leads me to this opinion.

While clubs like Hibs in the SPL may be able to cope with less money, lower revenue in sponsorship for SPL also means less money trickling down the the lower divisions. (See Stenhousemuir's statement for what it means to the teams in the lower leagues.)
 
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I'm stating my opinion that clubs in the SPL may not survive if sponsorship and tv money is significantly reduced.
I think it's fair to expect a drop in the revenue from sponsors next year. However, the statement you posted explicity said that there is the possibility of no sponsorship money. This is what i find arrogant, when you consider that most school and pub teams up and down the country can attract sponsors, yet you think that without Rangers, the other SPL teams might not get a sponsor at all.

My opinion is not my desire or wish though and people seem to often confuse the two.

I am accusing you of arrogance, not malice. I'm sure that most (reaonable) people dont want to see any more clubs go under.
 
Don't know why Rangers fans are so keen about Div3, won't you just get stuck there with **** players like everyone else in the division?

Now that you are no longer top of the SPL you will have to structure your club according to what division you are in and you won't be able to attract the quality of players you could before to dig you out.

You don't need to attract players that will win the SPL. You need to attract players to get them out of div 3, and probably div 2 as well, and then shed them and attract others.

The name and the fact that the players know they will be going up means they might well even drop to 3rd from the 1st and 2nd.
 
I think it's great they're in division 3 - the clubs lower down will have a nice financial boost from travelling Rangers fans, if anything it will help to reinvigorate Scottish football. I saw with Wimbledon that when you take several thousand to a counties league ground it gave them a great chance to improve their ground with the cash injection from matchday revenue. Interesting journey for Rangers fans as well, will make a change to the usual fixture list.

I'm sure those higher up can survive without rangers for a few years.
 
I think it's great they're in division 3 - the clubs lower down will have a nice financial boost from travelling Rangers fans, if anything it will help to reinvigorate Scottish football. I saw with Wimbledon that when you take several thousand to a counties league ground it gave them a great chance to improve their ground with the cash injection from matchday revenue. Interesting journey for Rangers fans as well, will make a change to the usual fixture list.

I'm sure those higher up can survive without rangers for a few years.

two home games against Rangers wont boost the clubs finances that much, especially if the tv money is withdrawn, it would mean that the SFA payments to the lower leagues would effectively dry up. Its been stated at our AGM as well as on the Stenhousemuir website that the loss of the SFA payments could cost every club in the lower divisions around £50,000, now split that between two gates with rangers and the clubs are still at a loss. Clubs like East Fife and Dumbarton only have one stand with a capacity of between 2000 - 2500 so even if they have a sell out crowd their shortfall is restricted by their grounds capacity.

Not as clear cut as you think.
 
There won't be complete loss of SFA payments as the settlement agreement still stands the payments will be proportionally reduced compared to what was given out in the 2011-2012 depending on the outcome of any negotiations between SKY/SPL/SFA.

To say there is no interest in Scottish football from TV companies is simply not true.

It's up to our governing bodies to negotiate a good deal for scottish football be it with SKY or with another broadcaster.

The problem is that at the lower leagues it is more a labour of love than any business aspirations that drives chairmen. Who after all would want to own a club having an average gate of 450-500 people. These are part time people who simply love their local team and love Scottish football.

Being in Div 2 and 3 for twenty odd years do you think they really care what happens in the SPL?

Might a demise of those that broke away from the SFL in 1997 be just revenge for their greed in the last decade?

However it's time for all fans who wanted "sporting integrity" to now vote with their pockets and start buying season tickets.

I'll be supporting my team from afar by watching the games on Rangers TV and buying the merchandise.

Still hope to plan a trip home in November for a couple of games.
 
First win of the season not pretty but considering we didnt even know if we would be playing atall only 48 hours before I'll take that result.

I will no longer be posting in the Rangers in Administration thread as we are not. That thread should be closed now.
 
Nope it's all agreed it's only for Duff and Duffer to transfer the share to Dundee that's pending.

Rangers must pay all footballing debts, and SPL must acquire the rights to show SFL matches involving Rangers.

Certain members of the SPL also wanted to keep the investigation into dual contracts going.

Wonder who we'll get in Round 2 to be played 14th or 15th August.

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FALKIRK V RANGERS

Nice match against a tough side.
 
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Seen the prices for next weeks game agasnt East Fife. 15 quid 10 and 5 for kids.

Think I might take the kid. Nice safe environment for him now.
 
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